My First Interview…Let’s Rant #25 — A MGTOW Interview

I just finished a recording where I cover some of the topics that I thought needed some additional coverage in an audio post and that I either felt I didn’t address properly or I missed/didn’t think to mention during this interview

I had to do some meditation on this interview after the fact, and once I post up My Thoughts on The Ranthony Interview, you’ll notice that I mention asking. That asking is me asking a question putting it out to the universe and getting the answer that I got. When I do this, or when anyone does this I always keep in mind that the answer I get is the answer I get. I’ll admit that in many cases the answer I get back via this meditation process isn’t always pleasant. In many cases, it’s like having to take yet another Red Pill. The information gained from such a process has always been enlightening about the issue or me in some form or another.

This is what I came up with

Angry MGTOW

Angry MGTOW

Straight up Angry MGTOW’s content never really appealed to me. That’s not to mean that I disliked or hated the guy, what I mean is that for me personally his content just wasn’t where I’m at in my life. Not only that his presentation and voice made it really hard for me to sit and watch his videos for more than a few minutes.

And then there’s his actual content

Seriously? Blaire White and ShoeOnHead Feminists? That must either be intentional click bait, or Angry MGTOW isn’t in touch with reality. What I also noticed is that anyone, and I do mean anyone that needed proof that all MGTOW were unhinged, Angry MGTOW was the go-to guy. Occasionally you’d see someone try and twist Sandman’s content around, usually that required cherry picking to make it happen.

I was asked what I was going to do about Angry MGTOW. And what was I going to do about Angry MGTOW? After my meditation, I came up with the answer of, Nothing!

Now that may sound unsatisfactory to the critics of MGTOW, allow me to explain. First of all, I’m responsible for myself and my own actions. I don’t subscribe to him, watch him or endorse him in any way. He occasionally, and do mean occasionally comes up with a compelling point, you have to sift through a lot of content to find it. I Haven’t got the time or inclination to do that. So in my case, my conscience is quite clear

Second MGTOW isn’t an organization like The Borg

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MGTOW is a collection of men going along on an individual path. Yes, there are factions inside MGTOW, and some are insane some are quite sane. Beyond the principal of anti gynocentrism and a marriage strike there are few things that all MGTOW will agree on. Therefore it’s impractical and almost impossible for me or any other MGTOW on YouTube to do anything beyond saying that they limit their association with Angry MGTOW. Here’s the ultimate crux of the problem even if Angry MGTOW were to go away (Die, Stop making videos, Quit, Disappear, etc. )  There would simply be another guy like Angry MGTOW that would step into his place. So whether you like him or not he’s here! And there is a faction inside MGTOW that his rhetoric appeals to. I personally don’t associate with him, and that’s really all anyone can do.

What can be done? The MGTOW that have been through the Red Pill Rage and come out the other side. There’s a need for us to be there to help the increasing number of men that are taking the Red Pill themselves and help them through the Purple Pill phase as best we can. Some will get stuck in the Red Pill Rage, and there’s very little I or anyone else can do if a man decides to stay there. Setting this up and encouraging this will require fortitude, there are entirely too many men out there that feel that any kind of emotional expression will make him a crybaby and will treat any other man around them that does so in a harsh manner. None the less I think this needs to be done.

The Comparison to Feminism

Answering this one was pretty easy for me.

It got pointed out to me that the structure of MGTOW is very similar to the structure of Feminism. In structure MGTOW, and Feminism looks the same. The answer here is in actions, A herd of Antelope and a herd of Elephants are both herds. These mammals though are two separate species they may both socialize in herds, but they act differently. This is where the argument that MGTOW is like Feminism falls apart. Yes, a herd is a herd, but herds of different animals act and behave differently despite the fact they both herd together. MGTOW actions have in very few even come close to the actions of what Feminists have done. The extreme factions are always mentioned, the extreme though isn’t the norm, unlike Feminism the extreme factions are not the ones dictating the herd.

I will admit that this comparison has caused me to re-evaluate feminism. It’s become even more clear to me now that Feminism not only won’t clean up its house, but they can’t. For them to do so would require a conscious, consistent long-term effort. It would also require the majority of feminism to actively support or jump on board with such an effort for it to work. Given the current situation that feminism is in at the moment, such an effort is very unlikely. What’s more like, and when I mean more I mean 99% likely to happen. Is that feminism will have to self-destruct and then need to rebuild itself from the ashes. By that time the whole concept of the role of women in society and what’s going on with them will probably be very different from what it is now.

This also serves as a warning to MGTOW and also to the MRM! We as a group cannot allow ourselves to fall into the same trap that feminism is now in. It’s critical that manosphere be about healing and rebuilding of men and not about revenge. It’s also clear from this interview that like Feminism both MGTOW and The MRM will likely also reach a period of redundancy in the west, assuming, of course, humanity doesn’t destroy itself.

Wasps and Bees also have a similar structure, and everyone agrees they’re not the same species, same situation here.

Blue Pill Alphas

If you go into the comments section of the Ranthony video, you’ll find a prime example of blue pill alpha. These are men that are doing well according to the selections that they’re aware. These men would be considered winners by societies standards today. They’ve played the game, played it well and in some rare cases are even thriving.

I reblogged this from The Rational Male, and it explains these guys better than I can here. Suffice to say though in the case of the guy I was dealing with he had a major dependence on external versus internal validation.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/blue-pill-alphas-the-rational-male/

I’d have to say at this point in time, these men are as big a threat, if not bigger than anything Feminism can throw at MGTOW at the moment. I did another blog recently about how Feminism is clearly starting to hit the ditch. They simply don’t have the resources either financially or culturally at this time to go into a full-on assault against MGTOW. Blue Pill Males and in particular Blue Pill Alphas do though. There is a basis for them doing so too. Imagine you’ve spent most of your life playing the game, fighting to get to the top of the heap, only to discover that not only was it not the top, but there were MGTOW able to ascend those heights that someone like Mr. Blue Pill Male could only dream of WITHOUT the brutal struggle. That’s not to say that the voyage for MGTOW is easy, the end of the process though delivers freedom that no Blue Piller, Not even a President, Prime Minister or King can have. This invalidates their whole struggle, this also explains why MGTOW have a tendency to want to hide their faces. Our process and struggle is very frightening to a blue pill alpha. Someone like the one I dealt with has to insult someone like me because it’s only in invalidating my effort that he can maintain his effort.

This anger and fear will grow as MGTOW continues to get larger and the effects start to have a real effect on the system as a whole. Specifically, in inoculating men against Gynocentrism these men will be compelled to do more than laughing at us and insulting us, THAT will be when the real fight begins. These men have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are, MGTOW are once they’ve completed the Red Pill Rage above and beyond that model.

This is where staying under the radar helps. At some point, there will be a face or two put on MGTOW until then though remaining a faceless mist is the best approach to people like this. That doesn’t mean I’m going to lie down and allow some ignorant fuck to step on my toes. I’ve worked hard to get past my personal red pill rage but also to self-actualize and self-validate.

Until then no Blue Pill asshole will tell me what I do with my life.

So in review, I’d say this interview was passable, Sandman does a much better job selling MGTOW than I can. I wasn’t seeking to convert anyone that’s not my style, my style is telling people what MGTOW has done for me. That’s really all that I can do

 

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The Well Isn’t Bottomless After All!

We’ve seen it for the four or five decades now. Feminists and SJW’s could say what they wanted when they wanted and how much they wanted. The left won the culture won, and since 1992 have won the popular vote in almost every major US election except 2004 and in most other western countries, this has also been the case.

I first started seeing ugly examples of Political Correctness in the Mid 80’s. At the time though Reagan was running the show in the US, Brian Mulroney was PM in Canada where I live, and Margaret Thatcher was PM in Great Britain. Plus there was the tacit support that was being given for what was happening in South Africa at the time.

What I need to keep in mind here is that I was only a few months removed from what may have been a fatal drug addiction and I was still in my late teens and early twenties back then. Didn’t know much (Still only know what I know) but I had much more pressing issues in my life at the time, like learning how to live for instance. The PC stuff that was going on around me appeared to be and to a certain extent was a pushback against a then dominant conservative narrative. The events in the 60’s weren’t just an obscure event that happened 50 years earlier. Most adults back then had at least some memory of what had happened, both good and bad.

This was also the first time I ran into Misandry. It was with a group of women in a 12 step group I belonged to. These women were damaged, and in pain, I mean real pain too not just the kind of faux bullshit triggering you see these days. These women found each other and bonded, and they made it VERY CLEAR that they had no intention of being friendly to any of the men in the meeting. Of course, not every woman was like this and I got to witness some of these women get past their pain and become beautiful people. Nobody in the group ever called them on their Misandry, not the men, not other women that weren’t in their circle, nobody did it was assumed they’d get over it. Some of them did too, a lot of them though clearly didn’t!

I had my own issues to deal with I assumed that these women would eventually grow out of the state that they were in and the ship would right itself. After all, nobody in their right mind would let such crazy people run their movement right?

I also began to encounter Men’s Issues in of all places Penthouse Magazine. I can’t remember the name of the man accused but a college age male at Brown University had drunken sex with another student. That woman was later on convinced that she had been raped and brought charges against the man, this was 1987!

Ironic in light of this article that came out recently on Heat Street

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/brown-university-rape-list-shuts-down-after-falsely-accusing-student-of-rape/

Brown University

And then there was what happened to Jimmy the Greek as well, comments taken completely out of context caused him to lose his job

I’m not going to turn this into a history lesson in my progression into a Shitlord here. What we have and still have is the ability of the regressives with help from the media to push whatever narrative they wanted at any time. So for the better part of five decades, a woman or SJW could destroy a person just on their say so.

Then the Internet came along

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The old standbys that Feminists had been using and the old cultural and biological mores that had from the very beginning of time had been preventing men from different social and cultural circles from talking to each began to break down. Liberals and Conservatives, Atheists and Christians men and women began speaking to each other online. It wasn’t always friendly, and in some cases, it was downright hostile. But in the case of Feminism and later on SJW’s notes began to compared and SURPRISE it turned out that these otherwise separate groups had much in common with each other than they had expected!

To give you an idea of what men had to work against Turd Flinging Monkey did an Enemies of Man series that I’d encourage anyone, not just MGTOW to go and watch

Along the way a unique movie called “The Matrix” came out, it was popular beyond all expectations, specifically, though the film introduced a metaphor that now resounds in the manosphere, this metaphor or symbol is called “The Red Pill.”

There had been of course other ways to describe a transformation from one being awake from being unaware and allowing your mind to only run on autopilot. There wasn’t an actual tangible symbol for such a state until this movie came out. Yes Total Recall also had Red Pill moment in it as well, but the symbology was different

Needless to say, the awakening had begun.

Events continued to unfold Loreena Bobbit, Duke Lacrosse both happened. Feminists and more specifically Radical Feminists continued to use the same tactics as the Manosphere slowly evolved. It was the same old song and dance for them though. Say what you want, do what you want because there are no consequences. The media controlled the dialogue, and the internet was a niche that nobody took seriously.  Feminists could afford to be dismissive of men and everything in manosphere. After all, they were just a bunch of whiny losers, right? Then the calendar switched to 2013!

There had of course been a shot fired across the bow before Donglegate, but this was dismissed, even by me as “a bunch of uptight idiots.” What I’m referring to is Sharon Osborne’s comment on the view that though had happened a couple of years before Donglegate.

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Suddenly for the first time real consequences for a feminist that had gone too far, clear there had been real-world implications for this kind of behavior. Since this event, it’s been very easy to deal with Feminism in its current form. They simply keep doing the things they’ve always done in the past like there’s no consequence because the support both financial and cultural had always been there.

Move ahead just a mere four years after Donglegate. Feminism is now getting absolutely mauled, some feminists have figured this out. Refer to this video and link below posted by John the Other

https://track3.mixtape.moe/udurqh.pdf

The link above is a fascinating read, not only for its conclusions but also for the level of denial and outright falsehoods that are in it.

Again though this was all well and good the Manosphere had the facts and truth on its side. Which was clearly counterbalanced by the fact that Feminists dominated the mainstream media. This gave them the ability to keep the truth out and also enable them to keep peddling lies like the wage gap and rape culture with little or no opposition. What little did come was viscously attacked. But they something else happened, and that something was Donald Trump becoming president

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I’m not saying that like it’s a good thing. Personally, I would’ve voted third party myself. It’s not that he won, it’s more like he won DESPITE not having any support from any of the mainstream media outside of FOX. He won for a variety of reasons Hillary Clinton was a very poor choice by the Democrats for instance. But it was the coverage and attention that social media was giving these issues in the face of the fact that the mainstream media was in the words of Noam Chomsky blatantly trying to manufacture consent.Manufacturing Consent

Now social media is a problem! Now, all of a sudden simply having a few regressives in critical editing posts doesn’t guarantee an outcome. But most importantly to Feminists everywhere, now it dawns on a lot of them that they no longer have exclusive control of the dialogue. Going on TV and spouting off lies and half truths that can’t withstand thirty seconds of fact checking online produce diminishing returns. Ironically the more they do it, the more attention they bring to the lying they’re doing. But if they shut up and don’t say anything then the assertions being made about them, much like the very ones they used to make (except ours are the truth) go unchallenged. And if that isn’t all, there’s also the problem that now old school media is now got its own long-ignored issues to deal with. There’s a new kid on the block that new kid is the Alternate Media.Why-Alternative-Media-is-the-New-MSM

This has put this current manifestation of Feminism in a very tight spot. The attack the mainstream media are having on the alternative media are only causing the Streisand effect.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/streisand-effect

The media right now as expected is more concerned with taking down Donald Trump no matter what it costs. They’re doing almost everything they can at the moment to regain the narrative that they’ve now lost. Unless Feminists are headed in this same direction (They are) they’re going to get left by the wayside. All of this attention focused on the elected President though has started to have a detrimental effect elsewhere. You see that once bottomless well of money and attention isn’t bottomless after all.

The Manosphere simply by standing there and allowing the screeching harpies to screech and the pointing it out to everyone have brought feminist support crashing. The constant out of touch and in some case blatantly sexist articles being run by feminists isn’t getting ignored anymore. It’s finally starting to show now for the first time that I can recall, and Feminist organization is running out of money!

https://web.archive.org/web/20170518175932/https://everydayfeminism.com/donate-to-ef/

If that’s not all Fairfax Media, the company that employs Clementine Ford is also slowly dying

The well is indeed running dry! And not just financially either, just when the Rad-Fems badly needed an influx of financial and cultural capital Donald Trump gets elected, and their strongest and most potent tool in their arsenal is quickly becoming obsolete. Tie that in with the constant lying and harassment of critics and you have a situation that starting to look desperate. Ironically enough to as successful as the million woman march was it consumed a significant amount of both financial capital and goodwill to happen.

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All those people, all those speeches, all the rhetoric and it had zero effect on their opponents

You add all this together and combine it with the fact that despite all the noise made at this March, nothing has been delivered so far. While Everyday Feminism could just be a momentary blip there’s no denying that the well is starting to run dry.

And they did it to themselves! I could say more but the evidence pretty much speaks for itself and there are other blog posts.

 

Purple Pills EVERYWHERE!

In case you haven’t noticed there’s been an upsurge in popularity in all of the various factions of the Manosphere. If you haven’t seen this, you really need to start paying attention and man (or woman for that matter)

This like almost everything else I’ve encountered in life is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, we have a growing awareness of the situation that is taking place. The Left in its current form is entirely toxic. Men are getting shafted in marriage, relationships or nearly everywhere else. And Feminists, Fundamentalist Muslims and SJW’s simply cannot live and live, much like organizations like the Moral Majority used to do.

People can see this, the establishment specifically the on the left has decided in its wisdom that they know better what’s better for us. Not allowing us as individuals to make their own choices. This is what people call the red pill moment that moment when they see what’s going on around them and awaken to the reality of the situation around them.

This is the scene from the Matrix where Neo first takes the Red Pill

If you’ve seen this movie, you know that Neo doesn’t become fully awake right away. He had to recuperate medically be introduced to the Matrix slowly before he was shown what the reality of the Matrix truly was,. It was only when he learned the real truth via Morpheus teaching him via the construct, that the process of freeing himself from it and becoming empowered could begin in any real serious way

There’s a space of time in the movie between where Neo gets free from the Matrix and where he’s shown the truth of it. That phase is what many of us would like to call the Purple Pill.

But what is the Purple Pill? Well first you have to be aware of what the Red Pill is

This is a basic definition of the Red Pill, and many within the Red Pill community have taken many different meanings depending on who they are. Some of these are good some are not.

Purple Pill is that transition between Blue Pill (Asleep) and the Red Pill (Awake). This transition in the Matrix takes time. Some people are ‘blessed’ with taking a full hit right away. Although it’s not something, they’d consider a blessing at the time.

In my case, my Purple pill transition happened over a couple of decades. Starting with Loreena Bobbit, Noam Chomsky, and an Introduction the Sterling Institute of Relationship.

https://www.sterling-institute.com/

It ended when Atheism Plus decided that they needed to turn the entire Atheist community into a giant social justice warrior machine. They were only partially successful in doing this, mostly because Atheists are generally a group of independent-minded and strongly opinionated people who for some odd reason had the nerve to demand that Feminists bring actual facts to the table rather than just accepting what they were told. myers

When a person is in transition that person may not and might not want to absorb or listen to all the Red Pill concepts. So what you’ll run into this crowd is people that for instance or wholly on board when it comes to Gamergate, but will start screaming at you like a fanatical SJW if you criticize Black Lives Matter. Or they’ll run a men’s rights page or group on Facebook but will get their panties in a knot if you post something anti-feminist.

I’ve personally run into both of these, but I also ran into this lovely example brought to you by Feminism LOL

I’d like to say that what Diana has encountered is the exception rather than the rule. That would be a lie, though, I recently did a search on YouTube using the terms “No Longer a Feminist” or “I’m an Antifeminist, ” and the search yielded some fascinating results

Most of these videos were done in the last 18-24 months. We have the usual suspects on here Karen Straughn, and Julie Borowski for instance, have put out enough content that pretty much everyone except perhaps hardcore angry MGTOW would dismiss them. Others though like Kisara Vera, for example, leave you questioning their motives especially after you’ve seen Kisara Vera’s video on MGTOW for instance.

I understand that Kisara Vera may have some good points, but honestly, I’m not very keen on listening to someone who is this ignorant about MGTOW as she was in this video. Luckily for all involved Turd Flinging Monkey made a rebuttal video

We need to keep in mind two different things here when it comes to Purple Pillers. The first being this that not everyone that’s signing on board and claiming to be Red Pill, MRA, MGTOW, Gamergate, Anti-SJW is whom they appear to be. Some of them have very self-serving motives, in fact, everyone myself included needs to be vetted very carefully.

The other is this these Purple Pillers are like that new guy that just started at the workplace. He might be quite enthusiastic, and gun ho about his new job/status but isn’t aware of the lay of the land, the politics and in the case of the Red Pill the personal responsibility that comes from taking the Red Pill. And not all of them are going to become fully awake and aware, some of them are going to go running back.

The thing to remember here is that these people are like children in some ways, they really, honestly don’t know yet. And much like that new guy on the job site we need to have a little patience and understanding, especially when they join sites on Facebook for instance then start tone policing, virtue signaling or even worse. I ran into such a guy at one group on Facebook where this one Black Man apparently didn’t want to hear about how racist the Huffington Post had become and decided to start screaming at me, rather than providing facts to back up what he was saying.

I’ve been running into a lot of this lately, and I’ve been hearing from other people complaining about this as well. This is a consequence of a group or subculture becoming larger. Yes, we get the growth, fame, and influence that come with greater numbers. We also get more dissenting opinions from those not fully aware. For those that are feeling the frustration well up from having to explain basic concepts inside groups that were previously free of this. Understand that these people are not at the same level of awareness that you are. In time they’ll either come around or leave but take it with a grain of salt. When I started this I got ripped into for posting up an article that wasn’t quite right either. It was explained to me why it was this way and I got what they were saying. In doing so they opened the door to MGTOW.

We’re here to show the others that come after us what this Red Pill means, it’s not up to me, you or anyone to decide what that means for them personally. Maybe you will get a Cypher but you’ll free a lot of others on the way.

Clinton or Trump two different paths for the Manosphere and The New Activism

I have a love-hate relationship with politics. On the one hand, it fascinates me how and what people will do to do get and maintain power leaves me dizzy. On the other hand, people that cannot or will not stop talking about politics non-stop have easily got to be some of the most annoying people on the planet. Yes, everything has a political element to it, that being said though 12 step programs have a political element to them that didn’t stop me a Liberal choosing a guy that was about as Conservative as you could respectively get in Canada as a sponsor.

This man was the Ying to my Yang giving me a perspective on things that kept me in balance and centred. More importantly, he taught me without ever saying it that you don’t judge a person by their political affiliation, you judge them by what they do. This lesson has been crucial to me as I got involved with the MRM then MGTOW. There are still people that still cling to the dinosaur that’s the old liberal/conservative orbit on this issue. 

But that’s not the reason why I wanted to do this particular blog. I’ve been speculating on what’s happening in the 2016 presidential campaign and what it will mean for us in the Alternative media. Specifically what it’ll mean for us in the Greater Men’s Movement, Gamergate and the Red Pill.

I’ve already seen some very concerning trends develop in the last few months. For instance *1 There was an attempt early this year to platform the Gregory Alan Elliot verdict into an attempt to censor the internet and specifically Twitter. Which culminated in the one and only victory for feminism in the last few years when Roosh V had to pull back on his gathering. 

ANNOUNCEMENT: The Meetup On February 6 Is Cancelled

Not that I’m a big Roosh V fan or anything but what I concluded from what I saw here was a coordinated and organised attempt to keep someone from holding a meetup. 

There were also several MRA sites shut down because of mass complaints launched against them. In fact, I shared the blog by I-Hypocrite that documented what was happening

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/rose-is-off-her-meds-ihypocrite/

What you saw here was the beginning of the actual kickback from Feminists as they desperately try to regain an initiative that they lost in 2013 and never got back. Personally, I think Feminists and SJW’s should be thankful that the election came along when it did. After all, they’ve done a great job of defeating themselves at every turn even losing any ground that they might’ve gained earlier in the year. This election serves as a healthy distraction for everyone allowing them to post up some real idiocy that would normally get crushed. 

*2 http://web.archive.org/web/20160824114011/https://www.buzzfeed.com/natalyalobanova/can-you-pick-the-right-man-to-ban?fb_comment_id=1038058736259462_1041653352566667&comment_id=1039244452807557&reply_comment_id=1041653352566667&utm_term=.jtXlRe26o#.ungLv95KP

But I’m 500 words into this, and I haven’t gotten to my actual point yet! Trump vs. Clinton what kind of effect will this have for us in the future. Whether you like it or not one of these two is going to be President. One sucks corporate dick, and the other one is a corporate dick. Glad I don’t have to pick one of them but then again I’d be voting Libertarian if I had the choice. 

So you have two options here Trump or Clinton? While I’m not psychic or any other kind of person who predicts the future I can make educated and informed guesses. I’ve been surprisingly good at doing this but they are just guesses, and I freely admit that I could be wrong. 

So two real options here Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump how will this play out? Please note here I’m stating what my personal preference is by the order or anything else.

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Hillary Clinton wins.

Currently, Hillary is in the lead but only by a thin margin, and this is one of those elections that may drag out weeks afterwards much like 2000. I’m not convinced that this is a shoo-in for her the Democrats are using the same failed tactics that the Republican opponents to Donald Trump used.

But this about who’s going to win more like what will happen if Hillary does win. That will depend on the margin of victory. If Hillary wins in a landslide, then the Feminist/SJW camp will probably view themselves as being more secure than the facts would indicate they are. They will take the time to gloat laugh and otherwise continue to be dismissive of us going into 2017 even to the point that the winter and spring may be relatively quiet. They’ll view this in much the same way the conservative pro-war crowd views the 2004 election and will eventually go on the attack. And not just the clumsy poorly thought out blunders you’ve seen this year, but full-scale media assaults. Blatant lying thinly veiled suggestions that someone should do harm to us etc. The thing is that they’ll feel secure in their position and will respond in due time. The only problem is that someone or group will take this seriously and act accordingly. This will trigger that now infamous stage 4 event

https://www.popularresistance.org/the-8-stages-of-successful-social-political-movements/

Then it’s game on

A narrow win by Clinton though will induce a kind of panic. Yeah, Hillary won but damn that was close! There will, of course, be celebrating and joy by the Regressives but this is short lived. A slight win will serve as a wake-up call and will induce as much anxiety as it does the celebration. The attacks will start shortly afterwards, possibly while Barrack Obama is still in office *3 The reason for this is simple, given what Hillary Clinton just spoke about the Alt Right tonight there is very little doubt in my mind that she will tacitly endorse this move. Much like there’s been a lot of speculation about Barrack Obama quietly endorsing what has been going on with Black Lives Matter *4 

Things will come to a head much sooner bolstered by probable silent approval from the top the attacks will come hard and fast. The fading social capital that the regressives have will get spent much faster than in the first scenario. Stage 4 trigger event could come in as little a 6 months to a year. There’s also the very real possibility given Hillary Clinton’s already bad record that we could see the first one and done President since 1992.

So no matter what the margin of victory here the culture war starts sooner rather than later

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Donald Trump wins

Let’s be honest here Donald Trump needs to be a little quieter! The culture war is still coming the only difference here is that unlike the margin of victory here. What happens with Donald Trump will depend on how competent he is. I’m going to give both options if you disagree with me, well for this story to work I have to do both. I’m not giving either of these two any endorsement. So we have a choice between a competent Donald Trump and an incompetent Donald Trump

Competent Donald Trump could be the answer to more than a few of the ills that are plaguing the United States right now. And he’ll need all his capability to deal with the constant attacks that he’ll be facing in his first year. Donald Trump is many things some of them good some of them bad. What he isn’t though is the choice of the establishment and I’ll even go far as to say that he may well be a victim of either an impeachment or assassination in his first 12-18 months. Especially if he turns out to be more competent than expected. 

What this means is that the regressives will likely be spending the first year or two going after Trump as opposed to engaging in an all out attack on the seven deadly anti-feminist groups *5. In fact what you’ll see is a kind of reset button hit the sniping will continue and much like how it’s been going for the last couple of years. The real difference is that the regressives will have more time and space to organize themselves. What you’re also going to see as Donald’s term in office continues we’ll start running into larger and more blatant attempts to censor the fight as we go along. You’ll see more of those Trust and Safety Councils spring up as the fight slowly and inexorably starts to heat up again.

https://blog.twitter.com/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-safety-council

With some luck, Donald and the people in the Oval Office might be able to keep a lid on things possibly even as long as 2018 or 2019

An incompetent Donald Trump is another story. The establishment will quickly realize that Donald Trump isn’t all he’s cut out to be. That still doesn’t rule out things like either an assassination or impeachment it just makes it less likely and much less urgent. What this will mean for us though is that the regressives will cease their attacks on Donald and swing around and come at us. So in this scenario I see things going critical later than it would with a competent Donald Trump but still later than it would with Hillary Clinton. 

But before we all celebrate the fact that Donald Trump’s election delays these events. For all intents and purposes when it does go off the explosion will be much larger because there will be more energy behind it when it goes, simply because there was more time before the critical point was reached.

Either way, it’s going to blow, at this point, I seriously doubt that regressives have the necessary foresight to realize how self-defeating they’ve been. Much like how certain people have chosen to bury their heads in the sand of global warming. Regressives will keep their heads buried in the sand until it’s too late. But for those people in the Manosphere who believe that going Conservative or Liberal, Republican or Democrat is going to solve this? It won’t this election is about moving the seating arrangements on the Titanic at this point. Saving this society will mean that you as a person will have to take individual action, not wait for big daddy government to come and save you.

Remember folks politics is a loaded issue and what I just wrote here is sheer speculation on my part, not a wish list. So let’s stay away from the dogma if we can.

*1 I have nary a shred of proof to back up the Twitter claim. There were an odd series of coincidences right around the time of the Gregory Alan Elliot verdict. 

*2 Not that the article in question didn’t get crushed in the comments anyway

*3 NO SOONER than today (August 25, 2016) Hillary Clinton herself took shots at the Alt Right movement. While I’m not Alt Right myself I found the timing of this very ominous indeed. Links provided below including a piece from Davis J Aurini

An Introduction to the Alt Right

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/25/politics/alt-right-explained-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/293359-full-speech-hillary-clinton-attacks-alt-right-and

*4 Again I have no facts to back up that point it’s pure speculation on my part and more than a few posts saying that’s what he did. Did he do it? I have no idea but given what I’ve seen from Barrack Obama it’s not out the question.

*5 I got this name from this bullshit article at Oxygen.com the Seven Deadly Anti-Feminist Groups are,  Gamergate, The Alt-Right, New Atheists, Men’s Right Activists, Red Pillers, MGTOW, Pick Up Artists

 

My Review of Ghostbusters!

I’ve been down this road before. A year ago Aaron Clarey called for a boycott of Mad Max Fury Road based on the trailers.

Why You Should Not Go See “Mad Max: Feminist Road”

Now, as a guy that works in the industry, I knew better than to judge a movie by the trailer and I decided to see for myself. I waited until AFTER the weekend release for Mad Max Fury Road because I didn’t want to give support to the opening weekend. I ended up getting the flu that very weekend which ironically enough kick started me on the most difficult period of my life. That’s another story though and at the time I had no idea what was coming for me. You can see what I wrote and concluded about those movies in the links below

Why You Should Not Go See “Mad Max: Feminist Road”

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/i-will-probably-go-see-mad-max-fury-road-despite-the-potential-feminist-preaching-in-it/

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There were clearly some people that didn’t agree with me and that’s perfectly OK. The thing was though at the time it was MRA’s that were allegedly calling for this boycott no such boycott was declared. Except by RooshV and The Return of Kings Crowd and anyone that’s bothered to fact check knows that while Return of Kings has views that straddle those of MRA’s it is in fact not an MRA site at all.

Ghostbusters though was another story entirely. Right from the start this movie rolled out a ‘progressive movie’ with an all-female cast, a progressive director (Paul Feig) and the studio and producers Amy Pascale in particular played up about how progressive this movie was going to be. Because there weren’t enough females in Hollywood due to Patriarchy. So right from the start, they demanded that you like this movie just because. Then the trailers came out, Do we even need to review that? Yeah lets just have a look just to remind us of how bad it got

Ghostbusters Trailer

Yeah, you gotta like that dislike to like ratio.

So rather than realizing that HEY maybe we should change our approach. The idiots over the studio decided to double then TRIPLE down and start insulting anyone that panned the trailers. Even going so far as to accuse anyone who didn’t like the movie of being a misogynist! Let’s not even get into the selective censoring that Sony did at their YouTube site to make it appear that way. Naturally, of course, this was caught called, and now Sony had real egg on it’s face.

Then director Paul Feig tried to White Knight people by attempting to guilt them into seeing the movie.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Ghostbusters-Critics-Dissed-By-Sony-Head-Epic-Rant-95527.html

That do much better than the studio had done. By the beginning of July, it was clear that Sony had pretty much given up on trying to hype the film

And that was that Ghostbusters was in all likelihood going to tank, and there was nothing they could do about it? It didn’t stop Jezebel from trying to make it look like it would do well.

http://jezebel.com/ghostbusters-earned-3-5-million-on-its-first-night-in-1783748193

But as per usual all you had to do was pull away the top layer and the whole thing began to stink up the joint

Empty Theaters

In the face of this, I was tempted to do what I had done with Mad Max Fury Road and wait out the weekend before seeing it. Personally, I didn’t like being told by a bunch self-righteous Cultural Marxists that I should like or enjoy this movie just because well woman. Ego aside though I just had a feeling that this time UNLIKE Mad Max Fury Road, I couldn’t afford to sit the weekend out. So I told my ego to take a fucking hike declared that I was going and promptly got unfriended by someone. Even though I had a perfectly valid explanation

Unfriended

So on Saturday night I decided that I would take one for the team and head on over to West Edmonton Mall. I marched up the Kiosk pulled out my cards and paid for the 3D experience to boot! Immediately I could tell there was a problem. I had already seen the pic about the empty theaters, but I had no idea it would be this bad. The theater wasn’t even 20% full! I made sure I double checked this with the ticket vendor as I walked in. 41 seats sold in a theater designed for 220. I didn’t bother to scan the audience to see who was there because that sort of thing usually doesn’t matter to me. I settled in, put on my glasses and watched the show.

Now here’s the part where you’re expecting me to tell you how bad the show was right? Well, you’d be wrong on that part! The movie was in fact, decent, by no means was it a classic and I’m sure as hell not seeing it again on the big screen. I would buy it for my own personal DVD collection though at a later date. But don’t read too much into that I also have real classics like “Kung Pow” in my movie collection.

No! The movie was decent I’m not sure if was 3D decent but it had moments and it was even quite funny at times. I thought Kate McKinnon was especially funny, I should point out though that I have a predilection for that kind of character that she was playing in the first place,the other actors were also OK too.

Now though there were also a lot of things I didn’t like. Starting with the way Chris Hemsworth’s character is treated. The gushing by the women when he comes would if the gender roles were reversed had caused some feminists to go into spasmodic fits of offense. In fact as far as I can tell there isn’t a single decent male character in this entire movie. The CGI was also overdone.

As I left I did some quick asking around of other people leaving the theater. They also thought it was alright and a couple people thought it was better than Ghostbusters 2! I’m not sure if I’d agree with that assessment myself but I can say this.

The Studio, Director AND if you want to believe this done by Midnights Edge Producer Amy Pascal and her team are the ones you should hold accountable for this disaster.

Had the stunned idiots at Sony just made this movie and then quietly marketed it as another movie, instead of trying to march this out as an “Oh look how damn progressive we are” movie. And then went so far as to try and shame and force people into liking it. This movie might’ve had a fighting chance to at least break even domestically. As it is though they didn’t do that, instead they did what Feminists and SJW’s have been doing time and again, they doubled down and just kept doubling down. Now though as of the time of this writing the numbers for the weekend will be released in less than 4 hours.

We all know what’s going to happen next. In fact, some people have already tried to do this. They’ll blame those evil nasty patriarchal shitlords for killing the movie. Never mind that this didn’t work or even happen on Mad Max Fury Road. No, they’ll blame anyone other than themselves for their failure. And let’s be blunt here it was THEIR HANDLING of this movie that caused it to tank. You insult your audience that’s exactly what will happen. But here’s the irony of them doing this, though.

They will hand the Greater Men’s Movement it’s single biggest win of the year BY DEFAULT! This coupled with the fact that ICMI 16 in London went off with barely a hitch has in has undone much if not all the damage that the secret feminist offensive did in the early months of 2016. They shot themselves in the foot again and will blame us for it. And you know what? We’ll take it, you’re welcome.

If any of the actors involved in this project ever read this let me say to you. I’m sorry, I know you put some effort into your characters and you did have a decent movie. The progressives killed this movie, not us. Please understand this anger wasn’t directed at you the talent. It was directed at a bunch of people who think that they can force me and other people to like something when we all know that it has to stand on it’s own merits in a free and open marketplace. The people who did this though The Studio, Director and from what I understand Producer Amy Pascal they’re the ones you need to save your anger for.

So thank you again Feminists and Progressives for walking over and handing us the single biggest win of the year. I’m sure you’ll do it again too because idiots like you never listen or learn from what I’ve seen. I mean seriously all we had to do was stand and point and you did all the work for us. Next time just shut the fuck up and make a movie.

Cannot wait to see the numbers Monday morning! (It’s 5:30 am where I am now)

Update:

I just went over and looked at the numbers for Ghostbusters over the weekend. It grossed $46,018,755 over the weekend coming in second behind The Secret Life of Pets.

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekend-box-office-chart

That fact though doesn’t change the fact that the total budget for this movie was $144,000,000 given the large drop off in attendance that usually happens between week 1 and week 2 it’s fairly safe to assume the domestic box office will not save this movie from being a catastrophic loss. The International Market may allow Ghostbusters to come in with a slight loss and it’s always possible that word of mouth may cause one of those rare occasions where the 2nd week is better than the first week. This movie though as decent as it is Ghostbusters doesn’t have the kind of impact that would cause this it’s just not outstanding enough to make that kind of impact.

So Initial feelings were right! We won without really even having to fire a shot, they beat themselves just like they’ve been doing for a few years now.

 

 

 

 

 

My Own Private Revolution!

 

The very first article I ever posted up here was about how to move men’s issues forward.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/13-things-you-can-do-to-move-mens-issues-forward/

A lot has happened since then! I still engage in online Keyboard Warrior style fights but that’s only to keep myself sharp. These exchanges end up with me winning 99% of the time now. The opposition from what I’ve seen hasn’t gotten any smarter, they have become more desperate, though.

SK and that series? Shortly after coming to a solution about how to deal with her, she just up and left the coffee shop while it underwent renovations. I managed to find her via a bizarre fluke but once again she disappeared. Having no other remaining options and a job that was going to send me out of town I figured ‘what the hell send her a friend request’ The response I got back from her killed any and all interest I had in her, and I let her know it too. Lesson learned here I was glad to learn it, didn’t like the price I paid. Which included a couple of assholes on Reddit calling me a pussy for even having the temerity to even DISCUSS feelings.

Having cleared most of the worst from the last year I was now free of Financial, Work, and Relationship concerns. My mind was now free to explore other ideas and options that had been there but because of circumstances, I couldn’t pursue. There are more than a few areas where I’m wanting those areas though will be fixed in time. The person that emerges out of this transformation will be smarter, better prepared and a whole lot wiser. This process isn’t quite complete yet, but the rebirth is close.

What has come out of this for me so far is that life is indeed way too short. Life is way too short for all of us. I’m going to assume that if you’re here reading this that you’re either looking for or have found a way to express that in your life. The process I’ve been through has personalized this struggle. And there’s one basic truth that came out of it for me. There’s not much I can do about the big picture, there is something that I can do about me, though.

Therefore I’ve decided to take this activity of mine to a new level. Tonight I loaded up the first and second Youtube content videos I made. The first one is a repeat of the very first blog I did here at this site.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/13-things-you-can-do-to-move-mens-issues-forward/

The second one has much poorer sound quality because I just said “Fuck it” came home plugged in an old mic I had and started talking. It’s a basic introduction that’ll stay up for now although I may have to reword it.

I’m excited and concerned at the same time. After all, there isn’t a single activist or commentator in the areas I’m going to post up about that hasn’t been threatened or had their relations threatened. There were some reasons why I didn’t do this until now but mostly it was fear of economic or social upheaval. But as a friend of mine reminded me a few months ago at a Men’s Hangout it’s easy to shut down or shut up a few people. But if more people speak up it’ll be HARDER not easier for them to do this. I also don’t need a much larger regret of having to explain why I didn’t do something about what’s going on right now. And trust me if you’re reading this and you’re one of the let it burn types if you’re around you’d better be prepared to explain why you just sat back and did nothing.

But just like with the blog post “What it takes” I cannot allow fear to keep me in my place.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2015/02/20/what-it-takes/

Absolute worst case scenario here is that I get beaten, tortured and murdered in some backwoods area. Not saying that this is going to happen but if it does I go there with a clear conscience. What I won’t have to do is explain why I didn’t do anything at all.

So no more being quiet about this! No more fear of family run-ins, or someone trying to get me fired from my job. At some point, I’m guessing I’ll even start showing my face. For now though, it’s time for me to step it up. Because Fuck It Life is too short

My first Google Hangout

This hangout started out impromptu because a previously scheduled google hangout didn’t happen. Needless to say, there’s work involved in this and it’ll continue to progress. But this was me and Fidelbogen just talking things up.

* At the end of the interview when I was looking through the CBC Interview. Adria Richards exact response was “I did nothing wrong.”  then she started to cry. Implication being she’s hurt because she got caught and not because she got a man with kids fired at a joke not even directed at her