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My First Interview…Let’s Rant #25 — A MGTOW Interview

I just finished a recording where I cover some of the topics that I thought needed some additional coverage in an audio post and that I either felt I didn’t address properly or I missed/didn’t think to mention during this interview

I had to do some meditation on this interview after the fact, and once I post up My Thoughts on The Ranthony Interview, you’ll notice that I mention asking. That asking is me asking a question putting it out to the universe and getting the answer that I got. When I do this, or when anyone does this I always keep in mind that the answer I get is the answer I get. I’ll admit that in many cases the answer I get back via this meditation process isn’t always pleasant. In many cases, it’s like having to take yet another Red Pill. The information gained from such a process has always been enlightening about the issue or me in some form or another.

This is what I came up with

Angry MGTOW

Angry MGTOW

Straight up Angry MGTOW’s content never really appealed to me. That’s not to mean that I disliked or hated the guy, what I mean is that for me personally his content just wasn’t where I’m at in my life. Not only that his presentation and voice made it really hard for me to sit and watch his videos for more than a few minutes.

And then there’s his actual content

Seriously? Blaire White and ShoeOnHead Feminists? That must either be intentional click bait, or Angry MGTOW isn’t in touch with reality. What I also noticed is that anyone, and I do mean anyone that needed proof that all MGTOW were unhinged, Angry MGTOW was the go-to guy. Occasionally you’d see someone try and twist Sandman’s content around, usually that required cherry picking to make it happen.

I was asked what I was going to do about Angry MGTOW. And what was I going to do about Angry MGTOW? After my meditation, I came up with the answer of, Nothing!

Now that may sound unsatisfactory to the critics of MGTOW, allow me to explain. First of all, I’m responsible for myself and my own actions. I don’t subscribe to him, watch him or endorse him in any way. He occasionally, and do mean occasionally comes up with a compelling point, you have to sift through a lot of content to find it. I Haven’t got the time or inclination to do that. So in my case, my conscience is quite clear

Second MGTOW isn’t an organization like The Borg

Borg

MGTOW is a collection of men going along on an individual path. Yes, there are factions inside MGTOW, and some are insane some are quite sane. Beyond the principal of anti gynocentrism and a marriage strike there are few things that all MGTOW will agree on. Therefore it’s impractical and almost impossible for me or any other MGTOW on YouTube to do anything beyond saying that they limit their association with Angry MGTOW. Here’s the ultimate crux of the problem even if Angry MGTOW were to go away (Die, Stop making videos, Quit, Disappear, etc. )  There would simply be another guy like Angry MGTOW that would step into his place. So whether you like him or not he’s here! And there is a faction inside MGTOW that his rhetoric appeals to. I personally don’t associate with him, and that’s really all anyone can do.

What can be done? The MGTOW that have been through the Red Pill Rage and come out the other side. There’s a need for us to be there to help the increasing number of men that are taking the Red Pill themselves and help them through the Purple Pill phase as best we can. Some will get stuck in the Red Pill Rage, and there’s very little I or anyone else can do if a man decides to stay there. Setting this up and encouraging this will require fortitude, there are entirely too many men out there that feel that any kind of emotional expression will make him a crybaby and will treat any other man around them that does so in a harsh manner. None the less I think this needs to be done.

The Comparison to Feminism

Answering this one was pretty easy for me.

It got pointed out to me that the structure of MGTOW is very similar to the structure of Feminism. In structure MGTOW, and Feminism looks the same. The answer here is in actions, A herd of Antelope and a herd of Elephants are both herds. These mammals though are two separate species they may both socialize in herds, but they act differently. This is where the argument that MGTOW is like Feminism falls apart. Yes, a herd is a herd, but herds of different animals act and behave differently despite the fact they both herd together. MGTOW actions have in very few even come close to the actions of what Feminists have done. The extreme factions are always mentioned, the extreme though isn’t the norm, unlike Feminism the extreme factions are not the ones dictating the herd.

I will admit that this comparison has caused me to re-evaluate feminism. It’s become even more clear to me now that Feminism not only won’t clean up its house, but they can’t. For them to do so would require a conscious, consistent long-term effort. It would also require the majority of feminism to actively support or jump on board with such an effort for it to work. Given the current situation that feminism is in at the moment, such an effort is very unlikely. What’s more like, and when I mean more I mean 99% likely to happen. Is that feminism will have to self-destruct and then need to rebuild itself from the ashes. By that time the whole concept of the role of women in society and what’s going on with them will probably be very different from what it is now.

This also serves as a warning to MGTOW and also to the MRM! We as a group cannot allow ourselves to fall into the same trap that feminism is now in. It’s critical that manosphere be about healing and rebuilding of men and not about revenge. It’s also clear from this interview that like Feminism both MGTOW and The MRM will likely also reach a period of redundancy in the west, assuming, of course, humanity doesn’t destroy itself.

Wasps and Bees also have a similar structure, and everyone agrees they’re not the same species, same situation here.

Blue Pill Alphas

If you go into the comments section of the Ranthony video, you’ll find a prime example of blue pill alpha. These are men that are doing well according to the selections that they’re aware. These men would be considered winners by societies standards today. They’ve played the game, played it well and in some rare cases are even thriving.

I reblogged this from The Rational Male, and it explains these guys better than I can here. Suffice to say though in the case of the guy I was dealing with he had a major dependence on external versus internal validation.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/blue-pill-alphas-the-rational-male/

I’d have to say at this point in time, these men are as big a threat, if not bigger than anything Feminism can throw at MGTOW at the moment. I did another blog recently about how Feminism is clearly starting to hit the ditch. They simply don’t have the resources either financially or culturally at this time to go into a full-on assault against MGTOW. Blue Pill Males and in particular Blue Pill Alphas do though. There is a basis for them doing so too. Imagine you’ve spent most of your life playing the game, fighting to get to the top of the heap, only to discover that not only was it not the top, but there were MGTOW able to ascend those heights that someone like Mr. Blue Pill Male could only dream of WITHOUT the brutal struggle. That’s not to say that the voyage for MGTOW is easy, the end of the process though delivers freedom that no Blue Piller, Not even a President, Prime Minister or King can have. This invalidates their whole struggle, this also explains why MGTOW have a tendency to want to hide their faces. Our process and struggle is very frightening to a blue pill alpha. Someone like the one I dealt with has to insult someone like me because it’s only in invalidating my effort that he can maintain his effort.

This anger and fear will grow as MGTOW continues to get larger and the effects start to have a real effect on the system as a whole. Specifically, in inoculating men against Gynocentrism these men will be compelled to do more than laughing at us and insulting us, THAT will be when the real fight begins. These men have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are, MGTOW are once they’ve completed the Red Pill Rage above and beyond that model.

This is where staying under the radar helps. At some point, there will be a face or two put on MGTOW until then though remaining a faceless mist is the best approach to people like this. That doesn’t mean I’m going to lie down and allow some ignorant fuck to step on my toes. I’ve worked hard to get past my personal red pill rage but also to self-actualize and self-validate.

Until then no Blue Pill asshole will tell me what I do with my life.

So in review, I’d say this interview was passable, Sandman does a much better job selling MGTOW than I can. I wasn’t seeking to convert anyone that’s not my style, my style is telling people what MGTOW has done for me. That’s really all that I can do

 

Why I hate the SJW Youtube Community

Haven’t been on here for a while but after seeing this video by Kraut and Tea I’ve decided that this video needs to be shared. To the people on Reddit who will invariably complain about me spamming, please DO IT! I will GLADLY accept 100 complaints maybe even risk losing an account or getting shadowbanned to get this out.

The first part of this happened when Ashley Judd went on Ted talks and delivered what appeared to be a call to battle for Feminists everywhere.

There will be a review of this video coming up soon

But Kraut and Tea absolutely outdid himself with this new video of his. This video exposes the hypocrisy that the SJW community and whilst doing it also completely debunks Ashley’s TED talk as well in one single stroke.

In particular, what happened to  Ausyarr and Justin Templer is of real interest to me. I’ve personally had people on Facebook go out Google my name and in particular use one of my other social media accounts. Luckily for me I’m smart enough to have deleted any relevant information from that account so nobody could really use it. That didn’t stop them from trying though

Great job Kraut and Tea keep up the good work

Purple Pills EVERYWHERE!

In case you haven’t noticed there’s been an upsurge in popularity in all of the various factions of the Manosphere. If you haven’t seen this, you really need to start paying attention and man (or woman for that matter)

This like almost everything else I’ve encountered in life is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, we have a growing awareness of the situation that is taking place. The Left in its current form is entirely toxic. Men are getting shafted in marriage, relationships or nearly everywhere else. And Feminists, Fundamentalist Muslims and SJW’s simply cannot live and live, much like organizations like the Moral Majority used to do.

People can see this, the establishment specifically the on the left has decided in its wisdom that they know better what’s better for us. Not allowing us as individuals to make their own choices. This is what people call the red pill moment that moment when they see what’s going on around them and awaken to the reality of the situation around them.

This is the scene from the Matrix where Neo first takes the Red Pill

If you’ve seen this movie, you know that Neo doesn’t become fully awake right away. He had to recuperate medically be introduced to the Matrix slowly before he was shown what the reality of the Matrix truly was,. It was only when he learned the real truth via Morpheus teaching him via the construct, that the process of freeing himself from it and becoming empowered could begin in any real serious way

There’s a space of time in the movie between where Neo gets free from the Matrix and where he’s shown the truth of it. That phase is what many of us would like to call the Purple Pill.

But what is the Purple Pill? Well first you have to be aware of what the Red Pill is

This is a basic definition of the Red Pill, and many within the Red Pill community have taken many different meanings depending on who they are. Some of these are good some are not.

Purple Pill is that transition between Blue Pill (Asleep) and the Red Pill (Awake). This transition in the Matrix takes time. Some people are ‘blessed’ with taking a full hit right away. Although it’s not something, they’d consider a blessing at the time.

In my case, my Purple pill transition happened over a couple of decades. Starting with Loreena Bobbit, Noam Chomsky, and an Introduction the Sterling Institute of Relationship.

https://www.sterling-institute.com/

It ended when Atheism Plus decided that they needed to turn the entire Atheist community into a giant social justice warrior machine. They were only partially successful in doing this, mostly because Atheists are generally a group of independent-minded and strongly opinionated people who for some odd reason had the nerve to demand that Feminists bring actual facts to the table rather than just accepting what they were told. myers

When a person is in transition that person may not and might not want to absorb or listen to all the Red Pill concepts. So what you’ll run into this crowd is people that for instance or wholly on board when it comes to Gamergate, but will start screaming at you like a fanatical SJW if you criticize Black Lives Matter. Or they’ll run a men’s rights page or group on Facebook but will get their panties in a knot if you post something anti-feminist.

I’ve personally run into both of these, but I also ran into this lovely example brought to you by Feminism LOL

I’d like to say that what Diana has encountered is the exception rather than the rule. That would be a lie, though, I recently did a search on YouTube using the terms “No Longer a Feminist” or “I’m an Antifeminist, ” and the search yielded some fascinating results

Most of these videos were done in the last 18-24 months. We have the usual suspects on here Karen Straughn, and Julie Borowski for instance, have put out enough content that pretty much everyone except perhaps hardcore angry MGTOW would dismiss them. Others though like Kisara Vera, for example, leave you questioning their motives especially after you’ve seen Kisara Vera’s video on MGTOW for instance.

I understand that Kisara Vera may have some good points, but honestly, I’m not very keen on listening to someone who is this ignorant about MGTOW as she was in this video. Luckily for all involved Turd Flinging Monkey made a rebuttal video

We need to keep in mind two different things here when it comes to Purple Pillers. The first being this that not everyone that’s signing on board and claiming to be Red Pill, MRA, MGTOW, Gamergate, Anti-SJW is whom they appear to be. Some of them have very self-serving motives, in fact, everyone myself included needs to be vetted very carefully.

The other is this these Purple Pillers are like that new guy that just started at the workplace. He might be quite enthusiastic, and gun ho about his new job/status but isn’t aware of the lay of the land, the politics and in the case of the Red Pill the personal responsibility that comes from taking the Red Pill. And not all of them are going to become fully awake and aware, some of them are going to go running back.

The thing to remember here is that these people are like children in some ways, they really, honestly don’t know yet. And much like that new guy on the job site we need to have a little patience and understanding, especially when they join sites on Facebook for instance then start tone policing, virtue signaling or even worse. I ran into such a guy at one group on Facebook where this one Black Man apparently didn’t want to hear about how racist the Huffington Post had become and decided to start screaming at me, rather than providing facts to back up what he was saying.

I’ve been running into a lot of this lately, and I’ve been hearing from other people complaining about this as well. This is a consequence of a group or subculture becoming larger. Yes, we get the growth, fame, and influence that come with greater numbers. We also get more dissenting opinions from those not fully aware. For those that are feeling the frustration well up from having to explain basic concepts inside groups that were previously free of this. Understand that these people are not at the same level of awareness that you are. In time they’ll either come around or leave but take it with a grain of salt. When I started this I got ripped into for posting up an article that wasn’t quite right either. It was explained to me why it was this way and I got what they were saying. In doing so they opened the door to MGTOW.

We’re here to show the others that come after us what this Red Pill means, it’s not up to me, you or anyone to decide what that means for them personally. Maybe you will get a Cypher but you’ll free a lot of others on the way.

You Must Accept One Simple (And Hard) Fact

A guy posted this up on The Red Pill Nation group on Facebook. I thought it was pretty profound and I encourage anyone who’s MGTOW or considering going that route to read what this guy posted.

Here it is in an edited for grammar form, Written by IceHeart Phoenix  January 3, 2017

I’ve been MGTOW for a few months now and in that time I’ve come to realize something. Before you can accept the MGTOW path and truly begin your solo journey of self-discovery you must accept one simple (yet hard) fact. And that is…
You are irrelevant!
(Like I said, it’s simple yet hard to grasp and accept.)
With or without you, society moves on. With or without you, women still have about a 100 blue-pillers at their beck and call to serve at their every whim. With or without you, women still remain to be same as they’ve always been. Women don’t need you they don’t miss you are just a ghost that was at the fringes of her mind and soon as you woke up and took the red pill, ten other blue-pillers took your place, and you ceased to exist to her! You are irrelevant, Unknown! While you were present, your presence was ignored, and now that you’re gone, your absence is barely noticed.
(Harsh, I know. But part of being a red-piller is being able to accept the harsh truth for what it is.)
I see a lot of posts in this and other MGTOW groups from some of my MGTOW brothers, and the thought I read behind them is something along the lines of…
“I’m gone now, Take that bitches.”
Sometimes they make me laugh, at others, they make me arch an eyebrow, and at others it just makes me shake my head sadly. Because the sad truth is No, they are not taking anything. They never cared for you to begin with they are certainly not going to start caring now that you’re gone. The minute you walked away, they did too, on to the next blue-piller they could manipulate into doing their bidding.
I guess for some it’s a way of trying to work through the feelings of rejection or trying to validate yourself by trying to convince yourself that you matter to them, but the simple (yet once again hard) fact of the matter is that, YOU DON’T!
I’m not saying any of this to be mean or derisive to anyone, I have no quarrel with anyone, to begin with. And to be honest, I had a hard time accepting this fact myself. I just believe that the easiest way to move on and truly start your journey is to just stop being hung up on them.
Stop obsessively pointing out their errors, Stop trying to find examples of instances where they’ve blundered or suffered some form of misery. Stop trying to validate yourself via (click-bait) posts on the net of their drama and issues. Because while you are still doing all that, you are still lost and trapped in their net and web of well-fabricated lies.
The only way to truly win this fight is to simply not fight all together!
(Now, I’m fully and perfectly aware that one of the central tenets of MGTOW is that “you can’t define what MGTOW is for any other man apart from yourself.” So no, I’m not trying to define how to be MGTOW to anyone. I’m just sharing my two cents of something that’s been boggling my mind for quite a while now)

This is the link to my Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/948299015199478/

My YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCop0fVCifgnfCiUiNpLE8Jw

A Review of My Guesses for 2016

It’s the start of the New Year again! That means that it’s time for me to speculate on what might happen in 2017. I was more than a little surprised at how accurate I was for 2015. As I’m writing this, I have no idea how well I did for 2016.

So before I begin for 2017 let’s do a review on how well (or poorly) I did for 2016 this was the blog in question

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/my-predictions-for-2016/

1. A Politicizing of the gender issue

I have to admit this one was an absolute no-brainer. After all, it was an election year. By July Feminism was openly hemorrhaging badly. Had this election not come along Feminism would likely be a severely wounded and bleeding entity. Not that it wasn’t a terrible year for Feminism anyway

https://ageofshitlords.com/feminists-didnt-stand-a-chance-in-2016/

This article doesn’t include Gregory Alan Elliot winning his trial. The Idiotic doubling down by Feminists when Jian Ghomeshi was found innocent. Or how bad Feminists looked when they made blatant attempts to prevent the screening of Cassie Jaye’s documentary on the Men’s Right Movement called Take The Red Pill

Suffice to say I’m gonna count this one as DING!

2. Open calls for arrests and harassment of MRA/MGTOW/Red Pill

I hadn’t even finished the blog when there was an open call for the arrest of Milos Yiannapoulos on a morning talk show

Oddly enough when I wrote this I was thinking it was going to be one of the groups mentioned above, man, was I ever in for a surprise. While it did happen anyway via the open call to disrupt an event that Roosh V was going to put on.

http://www.rooshv.com/announcement-the-meetup-on-february-6-is-cancelled

Most of the violence came out either against Milos Yiannapoulos Dangerous Faggot Tour or During Trump Rallies. Men’s Rights and Red Pill ended up fading into the background during the fall

This video doesn’t include Trigglypuff or what happened at DePaul or UC Irvine.

Then we got what happened at Donald Trump political rallies

Gonna give myself a tentative ding on this one. It did happen but not to the people I thought it was going to.

3. Gregory Alan Elliot not guilty

HUGE ding on this one, again not a surprise here. I also have aired an opinion that a group within Twitter may in all likelihood were going to try and use a guilty verdict to come down hard on people like us. What they ended up doing is burning themselves out early with little to no real impact

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/twitter-harassment-trial-verdict-1.3415112

DING!

4. An ever increasing number of attacks by feminists on the GMM (Greater Men’s Movement)

They came out breathing fire at the start of 2016, especially on Twitter. I’m going to bring up a quote from that blog I wrote there

I see feminists becoming very quiet after that. After all, this was their only remaining shot at taking back the initiative they lost back in 2013. When they do come out of the castle again, it’ll get a whole lot nastier. Even more, than it is at the moment.

All that effort and all they managed to do were shut down a couple of pages on Facebook, Halt an Event done by Roosh V and stop a few screenings of Cassie Jaye’s movie. A very pitiful payout for what may have been an outright conspiracy.

Other than the harassment of Cassie Jaye’s movie after July it got pretty quiet it happened enough though that once again DING!

5. Feminism drops the ball on an issue, possibly even more than once

They didn’t even get out of the first day without dropping the ball huge! Look no further than Cologne on New Years Day!

In fact, there were so many of them that when Age of Shitlords did their article, even they had to omit some things

https://ageofshitlords.com/feminists-didnt-stand-a-chance-in-2016/

What the hell can I say here? DING!

6. The Beast that is MGTOW starts to emerge in full force. 

Became official sometime in the late summer or early fall when MGTOW.com first surpassed A Voice for Men and then blew past We Hunted the Mammoth just a few weeks later.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/09/07/mgtow-on-the-verge-of-arrival/

Yes folks MGTOW is here and is likely here for good unless the rules around a few things change drastically, specifically around marriage.

DING! Six for Six so far!

7. Women start taking the Red Pill!

This one was little bit riskier there are already some women that have swallowed the Red Pill, take this woman for instance

https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/

But it wasn’t until September that I started noticing a trend. It started one night at work when I listened to a video from Story Time With Doge

I went in and did some digging on YouTube what I found was an eye opener! I looked up “Not a Feminist” or “I’m an Anti-Feminist” this is what I came up with

45 of the 53 videos on this list are in the last two years. THIRTY SEVEN of them are in 2016. If that’s not solid proof that Feminists are losing their ability to dictate what women say then nothing else will

I will be doing a blog and/or a video on this topic soon because it deserves it’s own mention all by itself.

Another DING!

8. Threats and Arrests of Men’s Activists

I covered this in number 2, So I may have repeated myself this one though was aimed directly at MRA’s. The activity shifted over to the Dangerous Faggot Tour and Donald Trump and not MRA’s. Therefore I have to give this guess a good solid BUMP!

Roosh V doesn’t count because he’s not an MRA

Damn can’t win them all now, can I?

9. Convention in London this June MUST happen!  

It did happen, and it went off with just one hitch the AVFM page on Facebook was taken down.

https://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/facebook-removes-avfms-page/

Other than this one small hitch ICMI 16 went off quietly without so much as a whimper from any Feminist. Why this happened, and why it went down so quietly as opposed to what happened in Michigan in 2014 can be speculated on somewhere else.

Gonna give myself a solid DING on this one!

10. Another Men’s Rights Group Emerges.

Didn’t happen! What did happen though was MGTOW got a whole lot bigger than it was a year ago. There was also a slow and gradual turning away from Feminism and Regressives in General as things like the Dangerous Faggot Tour and The Donald Trump presidential campaign diverted the attention away from the MRM.

BONK

11. Other media sites start becoming sympathetic to men’s issues.

Not as much I thought! When Cassie Jaye’s movie came out, and the censorship bandwagon started up the publicity became better. Otherwise, I didn’t see much change at all. What I did see was an increase in the rhetoric and lying from the other side.

Very tentatively gonna give myself a ding here and a bow of the head to Cassie Jaye

cassie-jaye

12. Dissention inside feminism.

I didn’t personally see anything. A quick google search turned up nothing as well. I suspect that this might’ve happened because of the need for Feminists to unite against Donald Trump. They were not nearly so focused on the Manosphere this year.

BONK! I underestimated the amount of bile and desperation within Feminism and The Regressive crowd in general.

13. Casualties inside the GMM

I didn’t see anyone walk away and quit! So casualties didn’t happen. Some people shifted their focus or expanded their activities to fighting regressives as opposed to simply staying inside the Manosphere. I have become much more vocal about being MGTOW.

Bonk here! But this is because of a shift in priorities inside society not because anyone got tired and quit.

14. Divorce, Child Custody, and Alimony issue grind slowly back in men’s favor

January 2nd is far too early to see any stats on 2016 anywhere. From what I saw though the trend does appear to be grinding it’s way to a more balanced system. Grind being the main word here because them wheels are moving damn slow.

DING!

10 of 14 were right in one form or another! Not bad when you consider that I’m in no way a psychic, mathematician, remote viewer or any way a practitioner of any kind of future prediction methods, be they scientific or esoteric.

I’m clearly guilty of underestimating Donald Trump not so much because I didn’t think he would win because I always thought that it was possible. What I didn’t see was the profound cultural impact his campaign and election, would have here in North America. In fact, last night while I was writing this I had to listen to one future predictor rant on against Donald Trump constantly as opposed to giving predictions.

2016 was indeed ‘Game the Fuck On’ so to speak. I see what happened with the 2016 Presidential Election especially after Donald Trump won as acts of Desperation. Especially the riots in various places after he won. Those riots were in my opinion about as ‘spontaneous’ as the sun rising in the morning.

On a personal level 2016 was the most difficult and trying year I’ve had as an adult apparantly I wasn’t the only one who had this happen to them though. What will happen in 2017? Well that’s another blog for later this week, so keep watching

Why do some people hate MGTOW

I’m giving you here a set of theories I have as to why MGTOW more than any other group in the Manosphere gets attacked loudly and angrily. Even more so than the Red Pill Community

When I first discovered this, I found it quite odd but as I’ve gone along it’s made a little more sense. Honestly, though MGTOW has arrived, and it’s about time. Attacks against MGTOW are going to become more numerous, dishonest and in all likelihood more hateful than anything thrown against other factions in the Manosphere.

Like I’ve said in past videos though this attention is now going to bring the same unproven and biased criticism toward MGTOW that the MRM and Gamergate had to go through. For instance, a quick search of MGTOW at WordPress came up with two hit pieces, and I’m going to answer them here rather than address them to people that on the surface appear to have little to no interest in either finding out the truth of why this movement is taking off.

Let’s start with the more rational of the two

https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/61512613/posts/28064

see-theres-this-thing-called-biology

Now this woman does have a point! There is a faction inside MGTOW that I’ve termed Deep MGTOW this is the group that insanitybytes is referring to. There are a couple of blogs that clearly differentiate between the large variations that exist inside MGTOW.

https://talonrest.wordpress.com/2016/08/23/degrees-of-mgtow/

Why MGTOW is So Important

Yes, there is are men in MGTOW that are so gravely wounded that they have become inherently unreachable and would like nothing more than to see the whole thing come down. There are also others inside MGTOW that have wrapped themselves in the MGTOW to cover for severe social shortcomings to give themselves legitimacy. That doesn’t mean that this group is the majority nor do they represent a strongly individualistic movement like MGTOW. Insanitybytes blog though comes across as though this was the majority opinion, that may be an accident, or it may be on purpose. Her issue about biology though is spot on enough that it needs to be addressed. I even went so far as to do a blog about this issue.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/would-you-go-back-to-the-plantation-because-life-does-happen/

This blog covers my personal take on my sexuality and how I now use my personal sexual energy and direct it in ways that are constructive in my life. Ones Inasanitybytes DO NOT require women or any real kind of sexual intercourse. I realize that concept might be a little hard for you to grasp so here’s the specific chapter from Napolean Hill’s book that covers this.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/nth/tgr/tgr16.htm

There is much more to MGTOW than just staying away from women and being monks so thanks for playing. You strike me as a pretty smart person insanitybytes. In fact a lot of what you write about I agree with. It’s such a shame you just went on ahead and posted this up without bothering to ask anyone who was MGTOW what was actually going on. Because it’s much more than just staying away from women for me and more than a few others. The thing is insanitybytes MGTOW isn’t about you! You may not like it, but with all due respect your approval isn’t needed or wanted. You’re entitled to have an opinion of course, but at the risk of sounding misogynistic, you don’t get a say in this. Quite frankly as valid as some of your concerns are I’m not going to lose any sleep over the fact that I may have stepped on the toes of a Married woman who for all I know may just be getting bent out of shape because she can’t conceive that men will do anything different from what was put in from of them.

That assumption you made is incredibly arrogant and self-serving on your part. And quite frankly your assumption that men are slaves to their biology stinks to high heaven of Misandry.

Now let’s get on to this idiot!

https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/112869717/posts/1082

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Having gone through his blog posts, there’s only one thing I can say about this guy, MANGINA! I mean anyone that especially a male that has a blog called Feminism is for Men isn’t deserving of any respect from me or any other MGTOW. And as far as Feminism being for men? I covered that issue in this blog, yeah darthtimon I was able to get all this in less than 30 minutes! Blows your feminism is for men blog right out of the water now, doesn’t it?

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/09/10/thirty-minutes-of-misandry/

Standard echo chamber hit piece! I’m 99.999% certain this idiot never even tried to speak with or clarify any of his assumptions with any MGTOW out there. And even if he had done so he would’ve cherry picked the answers given to him to justify his position. Like virtually every other White Knight out there he makes the assumption that MGTOW is about men trying to gain power over women. Which is a hard thing to do when your central tenant is generally minimizing interaction with women! Yeah stupid, please explain that one to me. How does a group that encourages minimal interaction with women to keep women in their space gain power over women or keep them down? Do you have an answer for that one or are you so busy kissing feminist ass you can’t see past the fact that MGTOW is about Men making choices for themselves not about what women want.

That pressure you’re feeling at the moment? That’d be your brain trying to figure out how to answer that. Not that I think you will, you’ll likely go into a personal attack (Ad Hominem) or try to distract from the content of this blog (Red Herring or Deflection)

Now normally I’d just ignore a desperate for female approval, beta cuck, mangina like this except for one thing some other MGTOW decided to comment on his blog and then didn’t back up his claims with facts. This violates a personal rule I have when engaging people like this which are if they ask for citations you provide them.

So darthtimon

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Parts 1 and 2 Women favored in society and the courts

http://www.fathermag.com/808/GenderBias.shtml

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/practice-points/family-courts-women-and-children-first/5039969.article

https://lifeexaminations.wordpress.com/2011/04/18/marriage-today-is-slavery-for-men/

They live longer and get the lion’s share of the medical support

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151001-why-women-live-longer-than-men

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/men-die-earlier-but-womens-health-gets-four-times-more-funding/news-story/6bfc4ea7da62ad84743d7451de6de960

http://www.martynemko.com/articles/should-we-pay-more-attention-mens-health_id1231

This though doesn’t stop women from crying that they’re not getting funded enough.

Now let’s look at this interesting meme

 

I can feel my privilege all over the place, especially in jobs that are unglamorous, dirty dangerous and fatal where women are curiously absent. Oh no, they’re too busy whining about the lack of representation in jobs that have power, prestige or money like the hypocrites they are.

Darthtimon here’s the definition of hypocrisy for you because you don’t appear to be all that smart.

hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
  1. The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one’s behavior does not conform; pretense.
    synonyms: dissimulation, false virtue, cant, posturing, affectation, speciousness, empty talk, insincerity, falseness, deceit, dishonesty, mendacity, pretense, duplicity;

    sanctimoniousness, sanctimony, pietism, piousness;
    informalphoniness, fraud
    “must politics be the perennial benchmark of hypocrisy?”

Women initiate most of the divorces and the situation in divorce for the male is so toxic that any male made aware of the circumstances would at the very least have an extensive prenuptial agreement in place before marrying.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-new-resilience/201508/women-initiate-divorce-much-more-men-heres-why

I’m about done with this but pretty fucking please with a cherry on top, please try and call me on this because unlike MGTOW Soldier I got lots more!

*Addendum –Much to my surprise Darthtimon did indeed respond SIX MONTHS later His whole response was one simple LOL and a blog that falls apart the moment anyone over there comes over to read this blog. I’ve taken the liberty to archive said blog here just in case he tries to alter it later, because we all know that dishonesty is this guys method of operation. He also never addresses the question posed to him in this blog.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170618203528/https://coalitionofthebrave.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/the-return-of-the-sore-loser/

Now for the third part, I love your epic mangina answer that because she carried the baby and gave birth to a person that the man is just magically irrelevant once that moment of conception is done. Because you damn well know if a woman is left on her own to look after an infant without a mate or the state she’d be good as dead. So that comment about the woman being the only one that has to make sacrifices for an unborn child are a complete load of crap.

As for point number four by MGTOW soldier, I already posted up a blog called ‘Thirty Minutes of Misandry’ there’s all sorts of examples of feminists doing everything they can to prevent men’s issues for from being addressed. And the number of links there CONCLUSIVELY shows that this isn’t just a few bad apples.

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Got to ask here darthtimon, what is it like being so hard up for female approval that you’ll post up something like Feminism is for Men and kiss up to people who hate you because of your gender. Seriously you’re a pet; they don’t respect you and they’ll throw you under the bus in a cold second and then make up a lie or justification as to why later. But hey don’t take my word for just look at what happened to Jian Ghomeshi.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/04/12/jian-ghomeshi-you-were-a-pet/

That’s all you are a pet dog that will get put down the moment you become troublesome, but hey good luck with all the mangina ass kissing though..

 

Oh, I’m sorry did that hurt you precious feels? Well, maybe next time you’ll do a little fact checking before posting up something that has a crepe paper thin pretense moron! Quite frankly a person like you is undeserving of respect, and you won’t be getting any from me. Not after that piece of tripe you posted.

Now fellow MGTOW like every other male in this movement I cannot speak for anyone other than myself. That being said I’ve mentioned a couple of different places that we’d be getting attacked with more and greater frequency as time went on. Some of it is legitimate and has substance like insanitybytes. People like this need to be listened to, yes some of what she said was pretty ignorant. Her concerns about Deep MGTOW are very valid. Men in this much pain and are dealing with this much anger need tough love. The anger is there for a reason, and they need to get past it to self-actualize and self-validate. Real freedom in MGTOW exists on the other side of the pain, not in it.  It’s a shame that insantybytes made no attempt to understand why this is happening.

Men like darthtimon though? No respect should be given and unless they make some attempt to understand rather than just posting up epic bullshit blogs that have about as much substance a fart balloon. balloon-fart-clipart-1