Review of My Guesses for 2017


This is it!

My Last official act of 2017. This is the one where I look back at this article

And we look at how well or how badly I did. I’ll admit I did review this article a couple of weeks back and it didn’t look like I’d done all that badly. Unlike last year when Donald Trump threw a wrench into the guessing this year no such thing occurred. But I know for a fact I got some of the guesses wrong and I think I bombed out on a couple of them. Like I said I’m doing this again and writing down the results as they appear. So while I think I did well I could’ve stunk up the joint.

Let’s the massacre of my supposed high intelligence begin!

  1. People hold their breath for President Donald Trump

Yeah, there’s one that didn’t happen! Antifa Riots, Million woman march and open declaration of war by Feminists and Regressives. trump-4-805x452

Yep, the regressives didn’t even wait for Donald Trump to make a mistake they just went ahead and started attacking blindly. In fact, it was speculated that if this was what it was going to be like for the next four years well…god help us all.

People did calm down, Antifa lost its teeth but the attacks on Trump continue.

But for this guess BOY did I ever get this one wrong!

The Establishment may attempt to distract us from the ever-widening internal culture war with an outside distraction.

There was some talk about North Korea, there were the usual (ever increasing) terrorist attacks in Europe and a bombing in Syria. The Administration didn’t attempt to ramp up any wars and neither did the Regressives attempt to throw any crumbles and bobbles our way for us to look at. They went and stayed on the offensive to the best of their ability. At least until their credibility also started to take serious hits.

In hindsight the mainstream media and the establishment wanted us to pay attention to them this year. They got what they wanted and now they’re in free fall just like the rest of the regressives are.

But for the sake of this blog, wrong again. Mostly because 1 and 2 are tied together to make it so.

 3. Transparent attempts to crack down or censor the internet mainly alternative news sites.

YES! Got one right and boy did I ever hammer this one out the ballpark.

What stands out for me most though is the intentional lying about Pewdiepie

Got this one right (Finally)

 4. Gamergate (or a form of it) is not dead back for round #2

Comicgate…Nuff said

Or you can just go to The Quartering to see what’s happening with Wizards of the Coast at the moment.

Either way, I nailed this one!

  5. A Watering down of the Manosphere in general

This one is kind of hard to prove. became the second largest site in the manosphere and A Voice for Men returned to its old prominence. More MGTOW, MRA, Red Pill, PUA etc sites got started up. An increase in size and attention will mean a larger variety of opinion thus a watering down. Nothing unexpected here so I’ll give myself a yes here.

6. A rise in the extreme right inside the movement

I saw more Anti-Semitism this year than I had in the five years before. I had one of these guys start to follow me around the manosphere to keep justifying his beliefs to me. I personally had to declare that any jew bashing (Anti-Semitism) on my Facebook group would get you booted. You know it’s getting out of control when guys like Turd Flinging Monkey have to start making videos specifically addressing this issue.

The comments section got so bad here that YouTube had to shut down both comments and ratings. Like I said in my guesses for 2018 blog, this is the ugly stepchild of the manosphere and it needs to be dealt with SOON!

Got this one right though.

7. More prominent divisions rising inside the Manosphere

The rise of the Alt-Right is proof enough for that. We also had people on our side attacking each other. There was a row between Candace Owens and Computing Forever

There was also another one that appears to have removed Kraut and Tea from the YouTube community for now too.

Just to make it clear on both of these people. Candace Owens took down Social Autopsy for me that’s sufficient. Dave Cullen had a higher standard and it’s his channel so he has the right to say that there. Kraut and Tea on the other hand? I wasn’t involved never really followed it. I liked most of what Kraut and Tea did and I hope he comes back. Don’t know enough about what happened to make a call on it.

I can say I got this one right 5 for 7 now, not bad considering how badly I tanked at the start!

   8. Attacks on MGTOW happen with more frequency and ferocity

Well first we had this

Both of these stupid idiots started their channels in 2017. But for more example, we had this and a few others post up as well

This particular video got torn to shreds in the comments not to mention Turd Flinging Monkey did an epic takedown of this video.

Now this guy was really disappointing because he usually has an idea what he’s talking about

The real disappointment here was how he pinned this to the top of this video.


Yeah I pretty much say I got this one right

9. I’m not a Feminist or I’m not and/or antifeminist pronouncements rise quickly

This actually tapered off in 2017. Never mind that it’s picked up in a large way at the start of 2018. In 2017 this didn’t happen, likely because Feminists were more active and got more than a little help from the mainstream media

Got this one wrong

  10. Yet ANOTHER months-long period of feminist and/or SJW stupidity

There were moments where it looked like there was going to be something like this. The Mainstream Media though did engage in epic levels of stupidity and did have periods where they did the same thing that other branches of the regressive community did.

Does the mainstream media count as SJW? I’m going to give myself a tentative yes on this. Again though as the start of 2018 has indicated the regressives seem hell bound to lose all the ground they gained in 2017.

1/2 point on this one

11. Very clear signs that Feminism is losing 

Had the year ended before Harvey Weinstein got taken down it was really starting to look like this was going to happen.


Once this happened Feminists moved in a took Hollywood without much of fight, even going so far as to set up a potential McCarthy like commission to investigate sexual abuse in Hollywood

Now once again it appears as though Feminists have managed to shoot themselves in the foot as 2018 started. This MAY prevent the sexual misconduct commission from becoming too authoritarian too quickly. Or they may attempt to speed this up because of events that started, time will tell.

Now since this is about 2017 and not 2018 I’m going to have to go wrong about this one.

 12. Things start getting violent

I’m just going to post up a few things about Antifa and let them speak for themselves

Battle of Berkeley


Yeah I know, sorry just had to post this.

Granted Antifa had lost most of their Mojo by mid-year. The violence didn’t extend through the entire year of 2017. Something for which I think we can all be grateful for. 2018 feels like a different beast, more like a kettle bomb going off from pressure at some point.

So yes I did get this one right, glad it slowed down towards mid-year though.

 13. Outrageous and Blatant Lies

From the mainstream media? Oh hell yes absolutely!

I mean there are so many examples of it that I couldn’t possibly post all the content so here’s a link to it instead

14. Members of the various SJW factions start getting in trouble

Didn’t happen there were moments where it happened but you didn’t see the long hemorrhaging that had occurred inside regressive circles brought on by their own stupidity in 2017. UNLESS you cover mainstream news that’s another story altogether. For the sake of argument, I’m just going to put the mainstream media in the regressive camp here. They took the shots that the other factions couldn’t and probably wouldn’t have been able to take in 2017. As a result, they now are starting to find themselves in the same boat as them. If 2018 is any indication of 2017 for them it’s going to be a LONG year.

And oh yes got this one right

15. Bill Cosby Trial! 

Harvey Weinstein ended up being the goat that Bill Cosby was supposed to be. The Cosby trial was a virtual non-event. Luckily (If you’re a feminist) Harvey fell into the void quite nicely. He provided the impetus and push that Feminism had at the end of 2017 to pretty much take Hollywood and to destroy more than a few careers in the process. The price paid for doing this was totally unexpected though. It wasn’t anyone on the Deplorable side of the fence that got taken down. Instead, Feminists fed on their own that strategy of cannibalizing their own allies though appears to caught up to them already.

So yeah it sort of happened just not with the person I thought it was going to trigger it with. So I sort of got this one right in the actions but not the person.

  16. Virtue Signal Failure

Not as much as in 2016! But then again it would be very hard to ever duplicate 2016. Although based on what I’ve seen so far in 2018 it might be quite easily exceeded.

This one was going to be a pretty safe yes.

  17. Call on Donald Trump to be impeached or resign by the end of summer

Full History here

Impeach Trump

Yep got this one right. In fact, there was another attempt made just a few days ago.

  18. A Hard Right or Nationalist party wins a country (Or two) in Europe this year. 

Czech Election Won by Anti-Establishment Party Led by Billionaire

Well now, Thank You, Andrej Babis for getting the win for me!

So how did I do? 13 1/2 out of 18 75% well now not bad for a bunch of guesses. I want to discuss more though on how I went wrong and how no matter how accurate any kind of model is, even one where I’m just picking what I think and feel are the most likely reactions based on previous experience. Events can sometimes take strange twists. Or like what happened when Donald Trump put a wrench into a lot of my guesses in 2016 the actions of one individual can and do count.

What did I get wrong and why did I get them wrong in my not so humble opinion

Number 1 I got wrong because I assumed incorrectly that there would be the usual honeymoon period for Donald Trump nothing of the sort happened. In fact with a little hindsight it appears as though a lot of what occurred might have been artificially inflated

Number 2 I got wrong because I assumed once all the insanity got started it would escalate quickly. It didn’t in fact it came in two sections one at the start of the year from Antifa and the back end being provided by Feminism. North Korea had some moments for Donald Trump and the Administration but they didn’t use this to distract from the homeland

North Korea

Number 9 I got wrong there were a couple of factors. One being the move by social media sites to crack down on political wrong think. Another one was the apparent resurgence of feminism at the end of 2017. There’s also a case of a upswing will eventually top off. That doesn’t mean that they won’t start jumping on the wagon again in fact I’ve seen evidence of this starting in 2018

Number 10 I got wrong because while it did happen I didn’t expect that it would be the mainstream media and not the groups I expected.

Number 11 Never in my imagination did I ever expect that Feminists would devour their own allies for such a fleeting and temporary victory. Like I said before they captured Hollywood but have likely sped up their own demise

So I did OK, good thing nobody followed my guesses though I mean 75% is pretty good and worth a victory lap or two. I think it shows that my guesses can and should be taken with a grain of salt.


Male feminists face a long list of sexual assault accusations! – YouTube – Bearing

Male feminist writer fired by GQ Magazine after woman accuses him of sexual assault

Yet another male feminist gets his ass fired.

What stands out about Rupert Myers is that he was part of the 2015 Christmas Offensive where he and another asswipe named Chelsea Summers came out with ‘coincidental’ articles 4 days before Christmas.

The Year in Male Tears
The timing of both of these articles at the same time and the fact that they also both came out just before Christmas appeared to have multiple goals. One being to limit or control the comments section to a degree (Failed miserably) To get the last shot in the gender war for that year (Almost a success except MGTOW got the last say)
The last thing was the comments section had an irregular number of troll accounts posting at both sites, going back and forth between the two, this could’ve been coincidence and I can’t prove anything because the comments section at both sites has been removed.
On the plus side, this turned out to be a major victory for MGTOW, not only because it had the last say, taking it away from these asswipes. But it also was firm recognition by an outside entity of MGTOW’s existence, The fact that the page on Wikipedia got slaughtered afterward means nothing

Here’s the fun part though Rupert Myers the cuck that wrote the featured article managed to get himself caught in the current feminist witch hunt for sexual harassers

I’m personally having a very difficult time feeling sorry for the guy and well Rupert you fucking hypocrite, you had some nerve saying what you said about us. Maybe you’ll learn your lesson from this and find your real balls but I seriously doubt that.

*For being such a sanctimonious prick

*For likely colluding with Chelsea Summers to post those coincidental articles to deflect deserved criticism of your crap articles

*For being so full of yourself that you called us Rape Defenders and Misogynists while you were clearly doing it yourself.

*For thinking that acting this way was going to get you anywhere good in the long run.

Let’s be honest here, Feminists were likely thinking that they would end up snagging people like us (MRA’s, MGTOW, Red Pill, Gamergaters etc) when they started this Weinstein witch hunt. Instead, all they’ve netted are their own male allies. The ones that are left are going to be pretty shaken up and will probably be walking on eggshells.


Long-term Feminism has likely cut off the leg to spite their feet. Yes, Harvey Weinstein was a thug, goon, egotistical asshole and sexual assaulter. And what he got caught for and what has happened inside the film industry may well have laid the groundwork for a film industry equivalent of Gamergate. Which unlike the aforementioned Gamergate, the press simply will not be able to bury. The price that Feminism has paid to take Hollywood has left them bereft of a lot of allies. Huge win for them, likely their last unless the state intervenes on their behalf.  I’m going to enjoy seeing them go down

And yes my final message to Rupert Myers!

Middle finger

A picture is worth 1000 words, Neroke out!

My First Interview…Let’s Rant #25 — A MGTOW Interview

I just finished a recording where I cover some of the topics that I thought needed some additional coverage in an audio post and that I either felt I didn’t address properly or I missed/didn’t think to mention during this interview

I had to do some meditation on this interview after the fact, and once I post up My Thoughts on The Ranthony Interview, you’ll notice that I mention asking. That asking is me asking a question putting it out to the universe and getting the answer that I got. When I do this, or when anyone does this I always keep in mind that the answer I get is the answer I get. I’ll admit that in many cases the answer I get back via this meditation process isn’t always pleasant. In many cases, it’s like having to take yet another Red Pill. The information gained from such a process has always been enlightening about the issue or me in some form or another.

This is what I came up with



Straight up Angry MGTOW’s content never really appealed to me. That’s not to mean that I disliked or hated the guy, what I mean is that for me personally his content just wasn’t where I’m at in my life. Not only that his presentation and voice made it really hard for me to sit and watch his videos for more than a few minutes.

And then there’s his actual content

Seriously? Blaire White and ShoeOnHead Feminists? That must either be intentional click bait, or Angry MGTOW isn’t in touch with reality. What I also noticed is that anyone, and I do mean anyone that needed proof that all MGTOW were unhinged, Angry MGTOW was the go-to guy. Occasionally you’d see someone try and twist Sandman’s content around, usually that required cherry picking to make it happen.

I was asked what I was going to do about Angry MGTOW. And what was I going to do about Angry MGTOW? After my meditation, I came up with the answer of, Nothing!

Now that may sound unsatisfactory to the critics of MGTOW, allow me to explain. First of all, I’m responsible for myself and my own actions. I don’t subscribe to him, watch him or endorse him in any way. He occasionally, and do mean occasionally comes up with a compelling point, you have to sift through a lot of content to find it. I Haven’t got the time or inclination to do that. So in my case, my conscience is quite clear

Second MGTOW isn’t an organization like The Borg


MGTOW is a collection of men going along on an individual path. Yes, there are factions inside MGTOW, and some are insane some are quite sane. Beyond the principal of anti gynocentrism and a marriage strike there are few things that all MGTOW will agree on. Therefore it’s impractical and almost impossible for me or any other MGTOW on YouTube to do anything beyond saying that they limit their association with Angry MGTOW. Here’s the ultimate crux of the problem even if Angry MGTOW were to go away (Die, Stop making videos, Quit, Disappear, etc. )  There would simply be another guy like Angry MGTOW that would step into his place. So whether you like him or not he’s here! And there is a faction inside MGTOW that his rhetoric appeals to. I personally don’t associate with him, and that’s really all anyone can do.

What can be done? The MGTOW that have been through the Red Pill Rage and come out the other side. There’s a need for us to be there to help the increasing number of men that are taking the Red Pill themselves and help them through the Purple Pill phase as best we can. Some will get stuck in the Red Pill Rage, and there’s very little I or anyone else can do if a man decides to stay there. Setting this up and encouraging this will require fortitude, there are entirely too many men out there that feel that any kind of emotional expression will make him a crybaby and will treat any other man around them that does so in a harsh manner. None the less I think this needs to be done.

The Comparison to Feminism

Answering this one was pretty easy for me.

It got pointed out to me that the structure of MGTOW is very similar to the structure of Feminism. In structure MGTOW, and Feminism looks the same. The answer here is in actions, A herd of Antelope and a herd of Elephants are both herds. These mammals though are two separate species they may both socialize in herds, but they act differently. This is where the argument that MGTOW is like Feminism falls apart. Yes, a herd is a herd, but herds of different animals act and behave differently despite the fact they both herd together. MGTOW actions have in very few even come close to the actions of what Feminists have done. The extreme factions are always mentioned, the extreme though isn’t the norm, unlike Feminism the extreme factions are not the ones dictating the herd.

I will admit that this comparison has caused me to re-evaluate feminism. It’s become even more clear to me now that Feminism not only won’t clean up its house, but they can’t. For them to do so would require a conscious, consistent long-term effort. It would also require the majority of feminism to actively support or jump on board with such an effort for it to work. Given the current situation that feminism is in at the moment, such an effort is very unlikely. What’s more like, and when I mean more I mean 99% likely to happen. Is that feminism will have to self-destruct and then need to rebuild itself from the ashes. By that time the whole concept of the role of women in society and what’s going on with them will probably be very different from what it is now.

This also serves as a warning to MGTOW and also to the MRM! We as a group cannot allow ourselves to fall into the same trap that feminism is now in. It’s critical that manosphere be about healing and rebuilding of men and not about revenge. It’s also clear from this interview that like Feminism both MGTOW and The MRM will likely also reach a period of redundancy in the west, assuming, of course, humanity doesn’t destroy itself.

Wasps and Bees also have a similar structure, and everyone agrees they’re not the same species, same situation here.

Blue Pill Alphas

If you go into the comments section of the Ranthony video, you’ll find a prime example of blue pill alpha. These are men that are doing well according to the selections that they’re aware. These men would be considered winners by societies standards today. They’ve played the game, played it well and in some rare cases are even thriving.

I reblogged this from The Rational Male, and it explains these guys better than I can here. Suffice to say though in the case of the guy I was dealing with he had a major dependence on external versus internal validation.

I’d have to say at this point in time, these men are as big a threat, if not bigger than anything Feminism can throw at MGTOW at the moment. I did another blog recently about how Feminism is clearly starting to hit the ditch. They simply don’t have the resources either financially or culturally at this time to go into a full-on assault against MGTOW. Blue Pill Males and in particular Blue Pill Alphas do though. There is a basis for them doing so too. Imagine you’ve spent most of your life playing the game, fighting to get to the top of the heap, only to discover that not only was it not the top, but there were MGTOW able to ascend those heights that someone like Mr. Blue Pill Male could only dream of WITHOUT the brutal struggle. That’s not to say that the voyage for MGTOW is easy, the end of the process though delivers freedom that no Blue Piller, Not even a President, Prime Minister or King can have. This invalidates their whole struggle, this also explains why MGTOW have a tendency to want to hide their faces. Our process and struggle is very frightening to a blue pill alpha. Someone like the one I dealt with has to insult someone like me because it’s only in invalidating my effort that he can maintain his effort.

This anger and fear will grow as MGTOW continues to get larger and the effects start to have a real effect on the system as a whole. Specifically, in inoculating men against Gynocentrism these men will be compelled to do more than laughing at us and insulting us, THAT will be when the real fight begins. These men have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are, MGTOW are once they’ve completed the Red Pill Rage above and beyond that model.

This is where staying under the radar helps. At some point, there will be a face or two put on MGTOW until then though remaining a faceless mist is the best approach to people like this. That doesn’t mean I’m going to lie down and allow some ignorant fuck to step on my toes. I’ve worked hard to get past my personal red pill rage but also to self-actualize and self-validate.

Until then no Blue Pill asshole will tell me what I do with my life.

So in review, I’d say this interview was passable, Sandman does a much better job selling MGTOW than I can. I wasn’t seeking to convert anyone that’s not my style, my style is telling people what MGTOW has done for me. That’s really all that I can do


My feminist views have been questioned recently.

You don’t encounter honesty like this very often, especially on Tumblr. I haven’t gone through her entire content, so take what she says with a grain of salt. What I can say though is that I’m starting to see more of this crop up in the last few months. Her point here is very clear Women as a group do need to do some growing up.  There are exceptions of course but as a group absolutely

Naturally, there are exceptions this article isn’t about the exceptions.

Purple Pills EVERYWHERE!

In case you haven’t noticed there’s been an upsurge in popularity in all of the various factions of the Manosphere. If you haven’t seen this, you really need to start paying attention and man (or woman for that matter)

This like almost everything else I’ve encountered in life is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, we have a growing awareness of the situation that is taking place. The Left in its current form is entirely toxic. Men are getting shafted in marriage, relationships or nearly everywhere else. And Feminists, Fundamentalist Muslims and SJW’s simply cannot live and live, much like organizations like the Moral Majority used to do.

People can see this, the establishment specifically the on the left has decided in its wisdom that they know better what’s better for us. Not allowing us as individuals to make their own choices. This is what people call the red pill moment that moment when they see what’s going on around them and awaken to the reality of the situation around them.

This is the scene from the Matrix where Neo first takes the Red Pill

If you’ve seen this movie, you know that Neo doesn’t become fully awake right away. He had to recuperate medically be introduced to the Matrix slowly before he was shown what the reality of the Matrix truly was,. It was only when he learned the real truth via Morpheus teaching him via the construct, that the process of freeing himself from it and becoming empowered could begin in any real serious way

There’s a space of time in the movie between where Neo gets free from the Matrix and where he’s shown the truth of it. That phase is what many of us would like to call the Purple Pill.

But what is the Purple Pill? Well first you have to be aware of what the Red Pill is

This is a basic definition of the Red Pill, and many within the Red Pill community have taken many different meanings depending on who they are. Some of these are good some are not.

Purple Pill is that transition between Blue Pill (Asleep) and the Red Pill (Awake). This transition in the Matrix takes time. Some people are ‘blessed’ with taking a full hit right away. Although it’s not something, they’d consider a blessing at the time.

In my case, my Purple pill transition happened over a couple of decades. Starting with Loreena Bobbit, Noam Chomsky, and an Introduction the Sterling Institute of Relationship.

It ended when Atheism Plus decided that they needed to turn the entire Atheist community into a giant social justice warrior machine. They were only partially successful in doing this, mostly because Atheists are generally a group of independent-minded and strongly opinionated people who for some odd reason had the nerve to demand that Feminists bring actual facts to the table rather than just accepting what they were told. myers

When a person is in transition that person may not and might not want to absorb or listen to all the Red Pill concepts. So what you’ll run into this crowd is people that for instance or wholly on board when it comes to Gamergate, but will start screaming at you like a fanatical SJW if you criticize Black Lives Matter. Or they’ll run a men’s rights page or group on Facebook but will get their panties in a knot if you post something anti-feminist.

I’ve personally run into both of these, but I also ran into this lovely example brought to you by Feminism LOL

I’d like to say that what Diana has encountered is the exception rather than the rule. That would be a lie, though, I recently did a search on YouTube using the terms “No Longer a Feminist” or “I’m an Antifeminist, ” and the search yielded some fascinating results

Most of these videos were done in the last 18-24 months. We have the usual suspects on here Karen Straughn, and Julie Borowski for instance, have put out enough content that pretty much everyone except perhaps hardcore angry MGTOW would dismiss them. Others though like Kisara Vera, for example, leave you questioning their motives especially after you’ve seen Kisara Vera’s video on MGTOW for instance.

I understand that Kisara Vera may have some good points, but honestly, I’m not very keen on listening to someone who is this ignorant about MGTOW as she was in this video. Luckily for all involved Turd Flinging Monkey made a rebuttal video

We need to keep in mind two different things here when it comes to Purple Pillers. The first being this that not everyone that’s signing on board and claiming to be Red Pill, MRA, MGTOW, Gamergate, Anti-SJW is whom they appear to be. Some of them have very self-serving motives, in fact, everyone myself included needs to be vetted very carefully.

The other is this these Purple Pillers are like that new guy that just started at the workplace. He might be quite enthusiastic, and gun ho about his new job/status but isn’t aware of the lay of the land, the politics and in the case of the Red Pill the personal responsibility that comes from taking the Red Pill. And not all of them are going to become fully awake and aware, some of them are going to go running back.

The thing to remember here is that these people are like children in some ways, they really, honestly don’t know yet. And much like that new guy on the job site we need to have a little patience and understanding, especially when they join sites on Facebook for instance then start tone policing, virtue signaling or even worse. I ran into such a guy at one group on Facebook where this one Black Man apparently didn’t want to hear about how racist the Huffington Post had become and decided to start screaming at me, rather than providing facts to back up what he was saying.

I’ve been running into a lot of this lately, and I’ve been hearing from other people complaining about this as well. This is a consequence of a group or subculture becoming larger. Yes, we get the growth, fame, and influence that come with greater numbers. We also get more dissenting opinions from those not fully aware. For those that are feeling the frustration well up from having to explain basic concepts inside groups that were previously free of this. Understand that these people are not at the same level of awareness that you are. In time they’ll either come around or leave but take it with a grain of salt. When I started this I got ripped into for posting up an article that wasn’t quite right either. It was explained to me why it was this way and I got what they were saying. In doing so they opened the door to MGTOW.

We’re here to show the others that come after us what this Red Pill means, it’s not up to me, you or anyone to decide what that means for them personally. Maybe you will get a Cypher but you’ll free a lot of others on the way.