Weeping Nazi started off as a “men’s rights activist,” which is no huge surprise

Yet another article that doesn’t stand up to even a few minutes of fact-checking. What else did you expect from Salon. Amanda Marcotte is CLEARLY trying to link the MRM to what happened in Charlottesville. Even though there were no active MRM’s or open MRM presence at this event Amanda Marcotte literally went out on a limb to try to link up the two.

What you’re seeing in these articles is out and out desperation and doubling down nothing less.

Unless you can prove definitely that this guy is still a regular contributor to AVFM.com at this current time. Then this whole article can be summarily dismissed as a rather pathetic attempt by Amanda Marcotte to try to tie the MRM with the events in Charlottesville

So WHERE was the MRM presence at this event. As in who was there in AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY representing either the MRM or AVFM. And that would be a direct VERIFIED presence, not just one guy who wrote an article on AVFM a couple of years ago and then desperately try to conflate this one guy as representative of everyone

https://web.archive.org/web/20170819104602/http://www.salon.com/2017/08/18/weeping-nazi-started-off-as-a-mens-rights-activist-which-is-no-huge-surprise/

But wait, folks, we got more Amanda Marcotte went full retard on this one

Salon Talks

https://web.archive.org/web/20170819104804/http://www.salon.com/2017/08/18/is-male-fragility-to-blame-for-charlottesville-violence/

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My First Interview…Let’s Rant #25 — A MGTOW Interview

I just finished a recording where I cover some of the topics that I thought needed some additional coverage in an audio post and that I either felt I didn’t address properly or I missed/didn’t think to mention during this interview

I had to do some meditation on this interview after the fact, and once I post up My Thoughts on The Ranthony Interview, you’ll notice that I mention asking. That asking is me asking a question putting it out to the universe and getting the answer that I got. When I do this, or when anyone does this I always keep in mind that the answer I get is the answer I get. I’ll admit that in many cases the answer I get back via this meditation process isn’t always pleasant. In many cases, it’s like having to take yet another Red Pill. The information gained from such a process has always been enlightening about the issue or me in some form or another.

This is what I came up with

Angry MGTOW

Angry MGTOW

Straight up Angry MGTOW’s content never really appealed to me. That’s not to mean that I disliked or hated the guy, what I mean is that for me personally his content just wasn’t where I’m at in my life. Not only that his presentation and voice made it really hard for me to sit and watch his videos for more than a few minutes.

And then there’s his actual content

Seriously? Blaire White and ShoeOnHead Feminists? That must either be intentional click bait, or Angry MGTOW isn’t in touch with reality. What I also noticed is that anyone, and I do mean anyone that needed proof that all MGTOW were unhinged, Angry MGTOW was the go-to guy. Occasionally you’d see someone try and twist Sandman’s content around, usually that required cherry picking to make it happen.

I was asked what I was going to do about Angry MGTOW. And what was I going to do about Angry MGTOW? After my meditation, I came up with the answer of, Nothing!

Now that may sound unsatisfactory to the critics of MGTOW, allow me to explain. First of all, I’m responsible for myself and my own actions. I don’t subscribe to him, watch him or endorse him in any way. He occasionally, and do mean occasionally comes up with a compelling point, you have to sift through a lot of content to find it. I Haven’t got the time or inclination to do that. So in my case, my conscience is quite clear

Second MGTOW isn’t an organization like The Borg

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MGTOW is a collection of men going along on an individual path. Yes, there are factions inside MGTOW, and some are insane some are quite sane. Beyond the principal of anti gynocentrism and a marriage strike there are few things that all MGTOW will agree on. Therefore it’s impractical and almost impossible for me or any other MGTOW on YouTube to do anything beyond saying that they limit their association with Angry MGTOW. Here’s the ultimate crux of the problem even if Angry MGTOW were to go away (Die, Stop making videos, Quit, Disappear, etc. )  There would simply be another guy like Angry MGTOW that would step into his place. So whether you like him or not he’s here! And there is a faction inside MGTOW that his rhetoric appeals to. I personally don’t associate with him, and that’s really all anyone can do.

What can be done? The MGTOW that have been through the Red Pill Rage and come out the other side. There’s a need for us to be there to help the increasing number of men that are taking the Red Pill themselves and help them through the Purple Pill phase as best we can. Some will get stuck in the Red Pill Rage, and there’s very little I or anyone else can do if a man decides to stay there. Setting this up and encouraging this will require fortitude, there are entirely too many men out there that feel that any kind of emotional expression will make him a crybaby and will treat any other man around them that does so in a harsh manner. None the less I think this needs to be done.

The Comparison to Feminism

Answering this one was pretty easy for me.

It got pointed out to me that the structure of MGTOW is very similar to the structure of Feminism. In structure MGTOW, and Feminism looks the same. The answer here is in actions, A herd of Antelope and a herd of Elephants are both herds. These mammals though are two separate species they may both socialize in herds, but they act differently. This is where the argument that MGTOW is like Feminism falls apart. Yes, a herd is a herd, but herds of different animals act and behave differently despite the fact they both herd together. MGTOW actions have in very few even come close to the actions of what Feminists have done. The extreme factions are always mentioned, the extreme though isn’t the norm, unlike Feminism the extreme factions are not the ones dictating the herd.

I will admit that this comparison has caused me to re-evaluate feminism. It’s become even more clear to me now that Feminism not only won’t clean up its house, but they can’t. For them to do so would require a conscious, consistent long-term effort. It would also require the majority of feminism to actively support or jump on board with such an effort for it to work. Given the current situation that feminism is in at the moment, such an effort is very unlikely. What’s more like, and when I mean more I mean 99% likely to happen. Is that feminism will have to self-destruct and then need to rebuild itself from the ashes. By that time the whole concept of the role of women in society and what’s going on with them will probably be very different from what it is now.

This also serves as a warning to MGTOW and also to the MRM! We as a group cannot allow ourselves to fall into the same trap that feminism is now in. It’s critical that manosphere be about healing and rebuilding of men and not about revenge. It’s also clear from this interview that like Feminism both MGTOW and The MRM will likely also reach a period of redundancy in the west, assuming, of course, humanity doesn’t destroy itself.

Wasps and Bees also have a similar structure, and everyone agrees they’re not the same species, same situation here.

Blue Pill Alphas

If you go into the comments section of the Ranthony video, you’ll find a prime example of blue pill alpha. These are men that are doing well according to the selections that they’re aware. These men would be considered winners by societies standards today. They’ve played the game, played it well and in some rare cases are even thriving.

I reblogged this from The Rational Male, and it explains these guys better than I can here. Suffice to say though in the case of the guy I was dealing with he had a major dependence on external versus internal validation.

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/blue-pill-alphas-the-rational-male/

I’d have to say at this point in time, these men are as big a threat, if not bigger than anything Feminism can throw at MGTOW at the moment. I did another blog recently about how Feminism is clearly starting to hit the ditch. They simply don’t have the resources either financially or culturally at this time to go into a full-on assault against MGTOW. Blue Pill Males and in particular Blue Pill Alphas do though. There is a basis for them doing so too. Imagine you’ve spent most of your life playing the game, fighting to get to the top of the heap, only to discover that not only was it not the top, but there were MGTOW able to ascend those heights that someone like Mr. Blue Pill Male could only dream of WITHOUT the brutal struggle. That’s not to say that the voyage for MGTOW is easy, the end of the process though delivers freedom that no Blue Piller, Not even a President, Prime Minister or King can have. This invalidates their whole struggle, this also explains why MGTOW have a tendency to want to hide their faces. Our process and struggle is very frightening to a blue pill alpha. Someone like the one I dealt with has to insult someone like me because it’s only in invalidating my effort that he can maintain his effort.

This anger and fear will grow as MGTOW continues to get larger and the effects start to have a real effect on the system as a whole. Specifically, in inoculating men against Gynocentrism these men will be compelled to do more than laughing at us and insulting us, THAT will be when the real fight begins. These men have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are, MGTOW are once they’ve completed the Red Pill Rage above and beyond that model.

This is where staying under the radar helps. At some point, there will be a face or two put on MGTOW until then though remaining a faceless mist is the best approach to people like this. That doesn’t mean I’m going to lie down and allow some ignorant fuck to step on my toes. I’ve worked hard to get past my personal red pill rage but also to self-actualize and self-validate.

Until then no Blue Pill asshole will tell me what I do with my life.

So in review, I’d say this interview was passable, Sandman does a much better job selling MGTOW than I can. I wasn’t seeking to convert anyone that’s not my style, my style is telling people what MGTOW has done for me. That’s really all that I can do

 

My feminist views have been questioned recently.

You don’t encounter honesty like this very often, especially on Tumblr. I haven’t gone through her entire content, so take what she says with a grain of salt. What I can say though is that I’m starting to see more of this crop up in the last few months. Her point here is very clear Women as a group do need to do some growing up.  There are exceptions of course but as a group absolutely

Naturally, there are exceptions this article isn’t about the exceptions.

The Well Isn’t Bottomless After All!

We’ve seen it for the four or five decades now. Feminists and SJW’s could say what they wanted when they wanted and how much they wanted. The left won the culture won, and since 1992 have won the popular vote in almost every major US election except 2004 and in most other western countries, this has also been the case.

I first started seeing ugly examples of Political Correctness in the Mid 80’s. At the time though Reagan was running the show in the US, Brian Mulroney was PM in Canada where I live, and Margaret Thatcher was PM in Great Britain. Plus there was the tacit support that was being given for what was happening in South Africa at the time.

What I need to keep in mind here is that I was only a few months removed from what may have been a fatal drug addiction and I was still in my late teens and early twenties back then. Didn’t know much (Still only know what I know) but I had much more pressing issues in my life at the time, like learning how to live for instance. The PC stuff that was going on around me appeared to be and to a certain extent was a pushback against a then dominant conservative narrative. The events in the 60’s weren’t just an obscure event that happened 50 years earlier. Most adults back then had at least some memory of what had happened, both good and bad.

This was also the first time I ran into Misandry. It was with a group of women in a 12 step group I belonged to. These women were damaged, and in pain, I mean real pain too not just the kind of faux bullshit triggering you see these days. These women found each other and bonded, and they made it VERY CLEAR that they had no intention of being friendly to any of the men in the meeting. Of course, not every woman was like this and I got to witness some of these women get past their pain and become beautiful people. Nobody in the group ever called them on their Misandry, not the men, not other women that weren’t in their circle, nobody did it was assumed they’d get over it. Some of them did too, a lot of them though clearly didn’t!

I had my own issues to deal with I assumed that these women would eventually grow out of the state that they were in and the ship would right itself. After all, nobody in their right mind would let such crazy people run their movement right?

I also began to encounter Men’s Issues in of all places Penthouse Magazine. I can’t remember the name of the man accused but a college age male at Brown University had drunken sex with another student. That woman was later on convinced that she had been raped and brought charges against the man, this was 1987!

Ironic in light of this article that came out recently on Heat Street

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/brown-university-rape-list-shuts-down-after-falsely-accusing-student-of-rape/

Brown University

And then there was what happened to Jimmy the Greek as well, comments taken completely out of context caused him to lose his job

I’m not going to turn this into a history lesson in my progression into a Shitlord here. What we have and still have is the ability of the regressives with help from the media to push whatever narrative they wanted at any time. So for the better part of five decades, a woman or SJW could destroy a person just on their say so.

Then the Internet came along

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The old standbys that Feminists had been using and the old cultural and biological mores that had from the very beginning of time had been preventing men from different social and cultural circles from talking to each began to break down. Liberals and Conservatives, Atheists and Christians men and women began speaking to each other online. It wasn’t always friendly, and in some cases, it was downright hostile. But in the case of Feminism and later on SJW’s notes began to compared and SURPRISE it turned out that these otherwise separate groups had much in common with each other than they had expected!

To give you an idea of what men had to work against Turd Flinging Monkey did an Enemies of Man series that I’d encourage anyone, not just MGTOW to go and watch

Along the way a unique movie called “The Matrix” came out, it was popular beyond all expectations, specifically, though the film introduced a metaphor that now resounds in the manosphere, this metaphor or symbol is called “The Red Pill.”

There had been of course other ways to describe a transformation from one being awake from being unaware and allowing your mind to only run on autopilot. There wasn’t an actual tangible symbol for such a state until this movie came out. Yes Total Recall also had Red Pill moment in it as well, but the symbology was different

Needless to say, the awakening had begun.

Events continued to unfold Loreena Bobbit, Duke Lacrosse both happened. Feminists and more specifically Radical Feminists continued to use the same tactics as the Manosphere slowly evolved. It was the same old song and dance for them though. Say what you want, do what you want because there are no consequences. The media controlled the dialogue, and the internet was a niche that nobody took seriously.  Feminists could afford to be dismissive of men and everything in manosphere. After all, they were just a bunch of whiny losers, right? Then the calendar switched to 2013!

There had of course been a shot fired across the bow before Donglegate, but this was dismissed, even by me as “a bunch of uptight idiots.” What I’m referring to is Sharon Osborne’s comment on the view that though had happened a couple of years before Donglegate.

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Suddenly for the first time real consequences for a feminist that had gone too far, clear there had been real-world implications for this kind of behavior. Since this event, it’s been very easy to deal with Feminism in its current form. They simply keep doing the things they’ve always done in the past like there’s no consequence because the support both financial and cultural had always been there.

Move ahead just a mere four years after Donglegate. Feminism is now getting absolutely mauled, some feminists have figured this out. Refer to this video and link below posted by John the Other

https://track3.mixtape.moe/udurqh.pdf

The link above is a fascinating read, not only for its conclusions but also for the level of denial and outright falsehoods that are in it.

Again though this was all well and good the Manosphere had the facts and truth on its side. Which was clearly counterbalanced by the fact that Feminists dominated the mainstream media. This gave them the ability to keep the truth out and also enable them to keep peddling lies like the wage gap and rape culture with little or no opposition. What little did come was viscously attacked. But they something else happened, and that something was Donald Trump becoming president

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I’m not saying that like it’s a good thing. Personally, I would’ve voted third party myself. It’s not that he won, it’s more like he won DESPITE not having any support from any of the mainstream media outside of FOX. He won for a variety of reasons Hillary Clinton was a very poor choice by the Democrats for instance. But it was the coverage and attention that social media was giving these issues in the face of the fact that the mainstream media was in the words of Noam Chomsky blatantly trying to manufacture consent.Manufacturing Consent

Now social media is a problem! Now, all of a sudden simply having a few regressives in critical editing posts doesn’t guarantee an outcome. But most importantly to Feminists everywhere, now it dawns on a lot of them that they no longer have exclusive control of the dialogue. Going on TV and spouting off lies and half truths that can’t withstand thirty seconds of fact checking online produce diminishing returns. Ironically the more they do it, the more attention they bring to the lying they’re doing. But if they shut up and don’t say anything then the assertions being made about them, much like the very ones they used to make (except ours are the truth) go unchallenged. And if that isn’t all, there’s also the problem that now old school media is now got its own long-ignored issues to deal with. There’s a new kid on the block that new kid is the Alternate Media.Why-Alternative-Media-is-the-New-MSM

This has put this current manifestation of Feminism in a very tight spot. The attack the mainstream media are having on the alternative media are only causing the Streisand effect.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/streisand-effect

The media right now as expected is more concerned with taking down Donald Trump no matter what it costs. They’re doing almost everything they can at the moment to regain the narrative that they’ve now lost. Unless Feminists are headed in this same direction (They are) they’re going to get left by the wayside. All of this attention focused on the elected President though has started to have a detrimental effect elsewhere. You see that once bottomless well of money and attention isn’t bottomless after all.

The Manosphere simply by standing there and allowing the screeching harpies to screech and the pointing it out to everyone have brought feminist support crashing. The constant out of touch and in some case blatantly sexist articles being run by feminists isn’t getting ignored anymore. It’s finally starting to show now for the first time that I can recall, and Feminist organization is running out of money!

https://web.archive.org/web/20170518175932/https://everydayfeminism.com/donate-to-ef/

If that’s not all Fairfax Media, the company that employs Clementine Ford is also slowly dying

The well is indeed running dry! And not just financially either, just when the Rad-Fems badly needed an influx of financial and cultural capital Donald Trump gets elected, and their strongest and most potent tool in their arsenal is quickly becoming obsolete. Tie that in with the constant lying and harassment of critics and you have a situation that starting to look desperate. Ironically enough to as successful as the million woman march was it consumed a significant amount of both financial capital and goodwill to happen.

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All those people, all those speeches, all the rhetoric and it had zero effect on their opponents

You add all this together and combine it with the fact that despite all the noise made at this March, nothing has been delivered so far. While Everyday Feminism could just be a momentary blip there’s no denying that the well is starting to run dry.

And they did it to themselves! I could say more but the evidence pretty much speaks for itself and there are other blog posts.

 

From Kafkatrap to Honeytrap_ A Blog By Armed and Dangerous

This here blog stumbled into my feed. It’s an interesting rebuttal to the usual excuse that Feminists use that it’s only a few bad apples that are causing the problems. What this blog clearly shows was that there was (and may still be) a group of feminists in tech intentionally attempting to use false accusations to bring in “Gender Balance” into tech.

It’s a little late but had this been discovered back in 2014 the hit to the SJW’s would’ve likely been unrecoverable. As it is I’d put this into the same category as ICMI 14 when Jeff Sharlet tried to manufacture an incident at the Detroit event.

In light of the actions by feminists, we really do need to be aware that creating events like this are a real possibility in the future.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907

Purple Pills EVERYWHERE!

In case you haven’t noticed there’s been an upsurge in popularity in all of the various factions of the Manosphere. If you haven’t seen this, you really need to start paying attention and man (or woman for that matter)

This like almost everything else I’ve encountered in life is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, we have a growing awareness of the situation that is taking place. The Left in its current form is entirely toxic. Men are getting shafted in marriage, relationships or nearly everywhere else. And Feminists, Fundamentalist Muslims and SJW’s simply cannot live and live, much like organizations like the Moral Majority used to do.

People can see this, the establishment specifically the on the left has decided in its wisdom that they know better what’s better for us. Not allowing us as individuals to make their own choices. This is what people call the red pill moment that moment when they see what’s going on around them and awaken to the reality of the situation around them.

This is the scene from the Matrix where Neo first takes the Red Pill

If you’ve seen this movie, you know that Neo doesn’t become fully awake right away. He had to recuperate medically be introduced to the Matrix slowly before he was shown what the reality of the Matrix truly was,. It was only when he learned the real truth via Morpheus teaching him via the construct, that the process of freeing himself from it and becoming empowered could begin in any real serious way

There’s a space of time in the movie between where Neo gets free from the Matrix and where he’s shown the truth of it. That phase is what many of us would like to call the Purple Pill.

But what is the Purple Pill? Well first you have to be aware of what the Red Pill is

This is a basic definition of the Red Pill, and many within the Red Pill community have taken many different meanings depending on who they are. Some of these are good some are not.

Purple Pill is that transition between Blue Pill (Asleep) and the Red Pill (Awake). This transition in the Matrix takes time. Some people are ‘blessed’ with taking a full hit right away. Although it’s not something, they’d consider a blessing at the time.

In my case, my Purple pill transition happened over a couple of decades. Starting with Loreena Bobbit, Noam Chomsky, and an Introduction the Sterling Institute of Relationship.

https://www.sterling-institute.com/

It ended when Atheism Plus decided that they needed to turn the entire Atheist community into a giant social justice warrior machine. They were only partially successful in doing this, mostly because Atheists are generally a group of independent-minded and strongly opinionated people who for some odd reason had the nerve to demand that Feminists bring actual facts to the table rather than just accepting what they were told. myers

When a person is in transition that person may not and might not want to absorb or listen to all the Red Pill concepts. So what you’ll run into this crowd is people that for instance or wholly on board when it comes to Gamergate, but will start screaming at you like a fanatical SJW if you criticize Black Lives Matter. Or they’ll run a men’s rights page or group on Facebook but will get their panties in a knot if you post something anti-feminist.

I’ve personally run into both of these, but I also ran into this lovely example brought to you by Feminism LOL

I’d like to say that what Diana has encountered is the exception rather than the rule. That would be a lie, though, I recently did a search on YouTube using the terms “No Longer a Feminist” or “I’m an Antifeminist, ” and the search yielded some fascinating results

Most of these videos were done in the last 18-24 months. We have the usual suspects on here Karen Straughn, and Julie Borowski for instance, have put out enough content that pretty much everyone except perhaps hardcore angry MGTOW would dismiss them. Others though like Kisara Vera, for example, leave you questioning their motives especially after you’ve seen Kisara Vera’s video on MGTOW for instance.

I understand that Kisara Vera may have some good points, but honestly, I’m not very keen on listening to someone who is this ignorant about MGTOW as she was in this video. Luckily for all involved Turd Flinging Monkey made a rebuttal video

We need to keep in mind two different things here when it comes to Purple Pillers. The first being this that not everyone that’s signing on board and claiming to be Red Pill, MRA, MGTOW, Gamergate, Anti-SJW is whom they appear to be. Some of them have very self-serving motives, in fact, everyone myself included needs to be vetted very carefully.

The other is this these Purple Pillers are like that new guy that just started at the workplace. He might be quite enthusiastic, and gun ho about his new job/status but isn’t aware of the lay of the land, the politics and in the case of the Red Pill the personal responsibility that comes from taking the Red Pill. And not all of them are going to become fully awake and aware, some of them are going to go running back.

The thing to remember here is that these people are like children in some ways, they really, honestly don’t know yet. And much like that new guy on the job site we need to have a little patience and understanding, especially when they join sites on Facebook for instance then start tone policing, virtue signaling or even worse. I ran into such a guy at one group on Facebook where this one Black Man apparently didn’t want to hear about how racist the Huffington Post had become and decided to start screaming at me, rather than providing facts to back up what he was saying.

I’ve been running into a lot of this lately, and I’ve been hearing from other people complaining about this as well. This is a consequence of a group or subculture becoming larger. Yes, we get the growth, fame, and influence that come with greater numbers. We also get more dissenting opinions from those not fully aware. For those that are feeling the frustration well up from having to explain basic concepts inside groups that were previously free of this. Understand that these people are not at the same level of awareness that you are. In time they’ll either come around or leave but take it with a grain of salt. When I started this I got ripped into for posting up an article that wasn’t quite right either. It was explained to me why it was this way and I got what they were saying. In doing so they opened the door to MGTOW.

We’re here to show the others that come after us what this Red Pill means, it’s not up to me, you or anyone to decide what that means for them personally. Maybe you will get a Cypher but you’ll free a lot of others on the way.

‘Men Working’ sign deemed sexist, Ohio college tells crew to stop working until its removed

Because it’s not men working! It’s attack Helicopters working

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/men-working-sign-deemed-sexist-ohio-college-demands-work-halt-article-1.1213388