This is a speculative video. While it seems like some of this is a far fetched. You need to keep in mind that things thought to be outrageous just a few years ago like manspreading are now being enforced by law in some faces.
You need to keep in mind that it has been established that Feminists have gone so far as making an open misandrist like Mona Eltahaway a spokeswoman for them.
Nobody inside the feminist community has publicly spoken out against what she says.
Been a while since I wrote a blog on this site!
But when I took a look at this male feminist BS ‘article’ I felt a very strong need to respond. This article is so bad that I took the time to archive it because I didn’t want the writer of this piece gaining any more positive hits for it if you have to read it
I did a YouTube response to this ‘article’ I use that term very lightly. I did a response to this article at YouTube which is below
I did find a brilliant response to this article at the Jordan B Peterson Liberal discussion group on Facebook. Which at least for now hasn’t been taken down by Big Brother yet
Gus Barkley wrote a brilliant response that sums it up better than I could. In fact, it’s so brilliant I’m republishing it here so we can all enjoy it. Not just the people at the Jordan B Peterson group. Gus if you read this, yes this is absolutely incredible! I don’t know if this is something you do all the time or if this is just a one-off. Good job so here in Gus’s own words is his response to this terrible article
7 Reasons Why Patriarchy Is Bad (and Feminism is Good) for Men
Just going to skip ahead to where Gus’s response. There are a couple of intro paragraphs that I have a response to in my YouTube response.
As we’ve talked about in other articles on TBINAA, there are certain aspects to the norms of masculinity that make men feel uncomfortable exploring certain parts of their own lives, minds, and personalities. A big aspect of upholding the norms of masculinity is that men often don’t put too much effort into questioning or reflecting on such norms, let alone how their own actions affect others. Rather than admitting faults or embracing vulnerability, men are told to “man up” or “stop being a p*ssy” in order to protect their precious masculinity, even if it means upholding harmful, destructive, and hate-filled norms that negatively affect those around them and, inevitably, themselves.
Feminism turns that idea of avoiding reflectiveness on its head. What many feminist leaders advocate for is that all people, especially men, be more reflective and introspective, and to be more comfortable with being called out for things that others may have an issue with. A big part of feminism is understanding how one’s actions and beliefs affect others, which patriarchal masculinity systematically avoids by upholding a more individualistic/man-vs-the world mentality. This aspect of feminism, especially as it has evolved in recent years, can help men understand that keeping up a persona of ultra-masculinity or machismo is something that not only make others uncomfortable, it can directly hurt those they love or care about the most.
It is false to equate telling someone to “man up,” or “stop being such a pussy,” with suggesting that the man in question not be introspective. Rather, it is asking him to overcome what is for some people an inclination to give in to unreasonable fear or pain, and to accept responsibility for doing what needs to be done. For example, imagine a father of a small child who panics when his child is injured and sits there sobbing instead of taking the child for the help he needs. “Man up,” you might say. “Don’t be such a pussy. Do what needs to be done and get some help for your child.” This has nothing to do with being introspective or not.
One of the most negative aspects of the patriarchal norms of masculinity is the tendency for men to constantly be in competition with each other. Almost every aspect of many men’s lives is shrouded by the need to see themselves as better than other men, or other people in general. This includes physically, such as working out for the specific intent of having bigger muscles, better abs, or more strength than other men, or intellectually, where men will feel the need to “mansplain” a topic to women, even if the women they’re talking to are more knowledgeable on the topic than they are. So much of the actions men take and the way men think are related to the desire to be better than others.
It’s a much different story in the world of feminism. Despite the many stereotypes of women being overly competitive with each other, feminism has been developed around the notion of community and solidarity being pertinent aspects of achieving self-love and self-care. It is much more important for feminists to create a strong community of like-minded and caring individuals than it is to automatically push away or compete with others. Feminists are much more interested in creating a space that feels safe and comfortable for as many people as possible. This can be beneficial for many men who have trouble simply accepting others in their lives without feeling the need to be better than them—they can find a way to truly separate themselves from the competition that surrounds them every day.
There is always going to be competition among people and there will always be cooperation. The issue is the right balance. Some men are too competitive, and so are some women, and so they see every interaction as a zero-sum game when most interactions are not. Some are not competitive enough and so they achieve much less than what they are capable of. Take team sports: The two teams compete to bring out the best in each other, but within the team, there needs to be cooperation for the team to succeed. But even within the team the players compete with each other for starting roles and playing time. This competition drives them to excel. This is a good thing. Sorry if I mansplained that to you.
It’s human nature for people to not like change. We like to be comfortable in whatever situation we find ourselves in, and we don’t like it when something comes along and puts us out of that comfort zone. We will find a way to stay comfortable, often at any and all costs. Unfortunately, this is exactly what patriarchy does for men. It enables men to remain comfortable in their privileges, in their dominance, in their reverence, while never having to question the issues women and nonbinary people have to deal with in relation to their comfort. For men, it’s easier to find partners who will do all of the things that men “aren’t supposed to do.” Although times have changed, many men still feel as though they are meant to be the main moneymakers in their household, while their partners should be the ones staying home, making them dinner, doing their laundry, taking care of their children, etc.
Feminism seeks to get rid of those archaic notions of what it means to be a “real man” or a “real woman.” Feminists would rather dismantle those norms and create a society that doesn’t let gender or whatever body parts you have dictate how people should or shouldn’t act.
What men don’t realize is that allowing themselves to fall into the trap of patriarchal masculinity is not only hurting the people they wish to be involved with in life, it’s hurting themselves by feeling as though they can’t truly explore themselves and understand that there’s more to life than keeping up with the status quo of gender.
What many feminists would rather see is men working alongside them to break down those barriers and norms and embrace a life of self-actualization that is free of baseless categorizations and judgments.
“Feminists would rather dismantle those norms and create a society that doesn’t let gender or whatever body parts you have dictate how people should or shouldn’t act.” Let’s start with why those norms exist. Women must bear the children. Women on average are so much better at nurturing young children than are men. Left to their own choices, women are much more likely to want to work with small children as daycare workers or elementary school teachers. This is true in every society throughout all of history, and is still true today in modern sex-egalitarian societies such as Scandinavia. Women typically don’t desire dangerous or physically taxing occupations. Women prefer to work part-time much more than do men. The list of sex differences across all cultures and epochs is fairly consistent.
Similar to the notion of keeping up the status quo, men often don’t realize how our society is built to put them ahead of women and nonbinary people. The patriarchy has supported this notion that men are inherently better than others, simply by virtue of being a man. Even if you identify as a man, if you don’t play along with the norms of masculinity, you’re treated as an “other” as well. More importantly, though, we see where men are put on a pedestal while others fall by the wayside. Typically, men are paid more, men are offered jobs more often, men pay less for products, men aren’t subjected to constant catcalling or sexual violence, men don’t have to face their insecurities, and men are happy about that. Unfortunately, women and nonbinary folks usually don’t have those same options, and they’re forced to be uncomfortable, feel unsafe, or face violence on a daily basis.
The solution that feminism has developed for this is leveling the playing field. That doesn’t mean men should have to deal with the same disadvantages as other people, rather men should both understand what others go through on a daily basis and also work toward eradicating those issues on their end, since much of it is perpetuated by men in the first place. Feminists strive first and foremost for equality, as well as healthy interpersonal relations. While striving for equality and giving up power and hierarchy sounds scary for a lot men, it actually presents an opportunity for men to put their effort into creating a society where women and nonbinary people don’t automatically fear men, especially cis men.
“Men don’t have to face their feelings.” Says who? Perhaps men face their feelings but, being governed less by those feelings than women, are able to act without always giving in to those feelings. For example, a man may be desperately afraid but still go into battle or chase down a dangerous criminal. Overcoming “feelings” is not the same thing as refusing to face those feelings. Perhaps men are not as vulnerable to sexual violence, but they are much more likely to be the victims of other sorts of violence. Men are much more likely to be murdered, beaten, etc. It’s crazy to say that men are put on pedestals. Men are criticized all day and every day in our current social environment. This article, for example.
Although the patriarchy benefits all men in one way or another, it doesn’t support all men in the same ways. This is one of the illusions the patriarchy tries to pull though: you’re a man, you’re better than women, and definitely better than nonbinary people. But what if you’re a black man as opposed to a white man? Or a poor man as opposed to a rich man? A trans man, a disabled man, an immigrant man, or an uneducated man as opposed to a cis man, an able-bodied man, a male citizen, or an educated man? What the patriarchy wants men to believe is that these other factors of race, ability, class, etc., don’t matter, that all men are equal, while it also supports the systems that oppress people who aren’t white, or rich, or able-bodied, or cisgender, or any combination of traits that are considered the “norm.”
Feminism, especially more recently, is focused on looking at everyone’s experiences through a lens of intersectionality. This means that as opposed to just looking at someone as a man, they recognize that man as also being black, disabled, and poor, for example. Intersectional feminism allows for a multi-faceted analysis of the various experiences, histories, and biases that affect a person. While the focus of feminism is primarily on gender, feminism with an emphasis on intersectionality can help men, women, and nonbinary folks alike understand where they are most negatively affected, how they experience various forms of oppression, and what they can do to eradicate those oppressive systems.
“Intersectionality” supposedly requires us to look at a person and to identify all of his identities that lead to his oppression. But this is evaluating a person based on his group characteristics, and not by his personal circumstances, which is the dictionary definition of prejudice. Not all women, all black people, or all gay people are oppressed, and not all straight white men lead a life of privilege. Some of the latter are poor, mentally challenged, in chronic pain, and lonely. Intersectionality is just a half-assed attempt to recognize that people are different, but it stops at group differences instead of individual differences.
There is no logical or reasonable way to deny that we live in a society that perpetuates rape and rape culture. Our society has been historically set up in a way that makes rape, sexual violence, or romantic manipulation not only possible, but rather a normal, expected occurrence for many people. For men, it is seen as a necessity to seduce women (or other potential sexual partners) to the point that they’re encouraged to force other people into sex, with little to no regard for consent. When men are questioned about it, it often gets played of as “boys will be boys,” or “uncontrollable sexual urges,” or “nothing that serious.” For the victim, however, they are often treated horribly, with outsiders calling them “sluts,” saying “they deserved it” or they were “asking for it” for one reason or another, and inevitably removing responsibility from the man who committed the act in the first place. And it goes beyond direct physical encounters too of course, with how women are objectified in every form of media, or how children and teenagers are sexualized to the point that they’re kicked out of class for clothing that’s deemed “too sexy,” so on and so forth.
Much of the recent focus of feminism is completely ridding our society of rape and rape culture. Feminism is focused on changing the conversation of “no means no” to “yes means yes,” providing services for women and other folks who have been affected by rape or sexual violence, and by looking at the very systems that exist to perpetuate the notion that rape is an expected and nearly acceptable occurrence. Feminism is out to protect everyone from the terrifying outcomes of rape and rape culture by making sure it can not only be talked about more openly, but it can also be more openly villainized and dismantled. Ultimately, that means breaking the patterns that lead men to think that manipulating, hurting, or raping women and other folks is okay and having men look at their actions and understand why a lot of people just don’t trust men in many situations.
Women are “sexualized” by the culture, but they are also kicked out of class for wearing clothing that is “too sexy.” Can’t you see the contradiction? Women want to be sexually alluring. They spend enormous amounts of time and money to make themselves alluring. This does not mean that they are inviting rape. But they are inviting male attention. The percentage of men who would commit rape is very small. Most are committed by the same few men. It is defamatory to suggest that rape is an epidemic among ordinary men. This is why we get the unbelievable statistics of 1 in 4 women on college campuses being raped. If this were true no reasonable woman would go to college. And if she did, she certainly wouldn’t go to drunken fraternity parties where she is most likely to be taken advantage of.
What all of this comes down to is the simple fact that the masculinity that patriarchy has bred and enabled is extremely toxic. It makes everything worse not only for those who are subjected to all of its negativity, hatred, subordination, and oppression, but it also makes things worse the men who benefit from it because they don’t have to question it.
Men are hurt by their own dedication to toxic, patriarchal masculinity by allowing themselves to hurt others.
While some men have definitely distanced themselves from the toxicity, most men are just fine staying in the positions and they’ll defend it no matter what, because they’re comfortable and safe. And just distancing themselves from toxic masculinity isn’t enough; men have to work to actually change their behaviors, and call out other men who are acting in toxic and horrible ways, who are acting in ways characterized by body terrorism.
This is one of the goals of feminism: to enable men to be less toxic and be more caring and supportive, to be willing to share and create safe spaces. But feminism is also important for men to achieve a level of radical self-love that patriarchy doesn’t allow in any way.
Men have to be more willing to understand themselves, their feelings, their insecurities, their needs, while also actively rejecting the notion that being violent or abusive or overbearing or condescending is normal. Men have to understand that you can’t separate gender from race, sexuality, ability, class, etc. Men have to be more feminist-minded when it comes to treating others with respect, with calling out toxicity, with fighting for social justice and equality, and with being good to themselves as well as those around them. It is pertinent to the betterment of our society that we can question ourselves, masculinity, and patriarchy.
Masculinity is bad. Men are bad. If you don’t agree you are supporting the patriarchy. Who knew?
Having had to endure reading this ‘article’ there’s really no other thing for me to conclude that this is a propaganda piece that was written by a male feminist. What you’re seeing here is an attempt by feminists to try and get ahead of the Men’s Rights Movement when it comes to Men’s issues. I’ve been seeing and reading articles like this in increasing numbers. Much like how the Regressive left is using increasingly desperate tactics to censor their opposition on social media. What you’re seeing from Feminism specifically is that they’re using their willing male allies attempting to establish the rapidly incoming narrative from the manosphere. They know that their attempts at intimidation and censorship are starting to fail.
If you think I’m just reaching here I was able to find this little piece on Phillipe Leonard Fradet
I’m going to just say it though, nobody and I do mean nobody outside the SJW/Feminist echo chamber is going to buy this.
Although Philippe do tell, what’s it like being so hard up for female approval that you would throw other men under the bus to get it? Masculinity is not a disease that needs to be cured.
Quora is a very interesting site!
It’s chock full male feminists, feminists, SJW’s, Regressives (Neo-Liberals) and the like. Many of them feel compelled to answer on issues that they have no idea about but like to pretend that their opinion about MGTOW actually means something. In truth, it doesn’t but every once in a while I stumble upon an answer that’s just so brilliant that it needs to be shared widely. This is such an answer written by Robert Basso to the Quora question that I’ve used at the title.
This guy deserves an upvote so please feel free to go over and give him one. There are scores of us that have had this very same experience and can identify. Fuck the bad boys, fuck gynocentrism, fuck marriage. I’m free in ways you cannot possibly even conceive. And won’t as long as you keep taking the blue pill
“Let me answer this with a scenario. A boy is born, for the first 12–15 years he is taught that women are the greatest thing since sliced bread, they are beautiful, they are wonderful, they are never wrong, they don’t poop, every man should aspire to be graced with the presence of one in his life as a friend, or partner. They will love you as intensely as you love them, for you not shallowly. They will be loyal to you, as you are to them, they are incapable of lying or duplicity, and are all around the superior creature, men are all truly blessed if they know any or are lucky enough for one to like them. Meanwhile, the girls are taught that they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, they can do anything they want to do, be whoever they want to be, have anything that they want to have. Every one is a special princess in their own right, no matter what they do or don’t do.
For the first several years of public school, everything is good, then puberty hits. Unbeknownst to the boy, conditioning has set the girls sights far higher than they should be, and they are only interested in the top male specimens (20 or so percent). This boy is good looking and fit, he falls into the 75th or so percentile, which means that he is short of what girls are interested in. As a result, throughout the rest of his high school career he finds himself in the friend zone, being used on occasion for favors and the like, always being lead on that there might be a relationship in it for him if only he did enough, or was good enough to a girl (cause they will love you for that heart of gold, right?). Well, he leaves high school with the impression that something went wrong, and maybe college will be different, must have been him, cause these perfect loving creatures could not have been so shallow to be after the jocks for their looks, or the rich kid for his money. He goes to college, and is not terribly successful with girls, but continues to be that friend to cry to, the one who has 20 bucks to lend, the one who can give her a ride home after drinking too much, the one that can help her move to another dorm, but just not relationship material. One day though, he finds a “different girl”, and she gives him a little attention. They start going out. He uses his meager money to buy dinners, give her gifts, etc. He thinks things are going well, but suddenly she is done with him (either ghosts him, or has the courtesy to break up with him), and within a week she is with some bad boy that treats her like absolute trash, but seemingly it is like ambrosia to her. The kid catches on quick and emulates some of that behavior, and since he is not bad looking and fit he get into a string of FWB and short relationships. Sex becomes passe (he can take or leave it), and his eyes are finally beginning to open. Girls can be just as shallow as guys, they care more about money, looks, and prestige than substance. Everything that he has been taught about them is seemingly a lie.
He is nearing the end of college, and isn’t dating much, he has seen behind the curtain and is angry that he will never know the love he was lead to believe existed. Then he meets a girl, he is skeptical, but she is “different from all the other girls”, she even tells him so. They start going out, and it is great. She is great, she is all the things he was told she would be, she is loyal (though she always texting and secretive with her phone, beautiful (though she does wear a lot of makeup, loves him for him (though he spends a lot of money). Heck, she may be the one, marriage material. Courting goes on for about 3 months, and then she becomes distant. Present, but distant as she seems more fond of that phone than him. He tries all sorts of tricks to prove his love, gifts, vacations, you name it.. All stops are pulled as he is trying to hold on to her. She seems contented, though the phone never stops buzzing. By this time he is in his first job after college. He has rented an apartment which she lives in with him for free, while she “finds herself” and finishes her humanities degree. He is putting in 50–60 hours a week keeping the bills paid trying to build a life for them, and one day he decides that being with her is worth more to him than the money that day and he decides to go home early, he picks up flowers. when he gets home, he sees cars parked in the street in front of his house but thinks nothing of it. He steps through the front door and hears noises coming from the bedroom. He starts to feel sick but goes anyway. There she is getting spit roasted by 2 bad boys covered in tatts, and reeking of booze. Disgusted he leaves the room and on his way out sees her unlocked phone, he picks it up and starts scrolling only to find out that she has been unfaithful the entire relationship. She has seen more penis than a urologist. More disgusted he drops the phone and leaves. When he finally comes home, the guys are gone, but the police are there. They grab him and haul him to the station, when he gets there he is grilled about what he’d done, and he tells them the story. According to the cop though, she says that he hit her, and abused her, and even showed them bruises (that look like maybe her party boys might have made). He is fortunate enough that there is not enough evidence and is released after several days. Just long enough for his employer to claim job abandonment and fire him. He returns home to find that the apartment he pays for has the locks changed, one of the bad boys moved in, and his stuff sitting out on the stoop getting rained on. He packs his things up and goes to find another place to live. He is smart enough to know that if he does anything at all, he will be crucified by a system that sees him as disposable, and her as a helpless victim. He calls her a couple days later for the last time for an explanation. She tells him that he is never around (working his ass off to fund their life) and that she is not happy. The other guys plowing her made her feel special, because he didn’t, couldn’t. How dare he be upset about how many had been with her before, and how dare he try and make this her fault when he should have been man enough to be around and entertain her.
He is beyond enraged about the situation, he wants to kill her, but he can’t do that, no matter how shitty a person she is, she is still a person. He then thinks “maybe it’s me who should die” (this is where the story ends for a lot of guys, check out the stats). He isn’t ready to throw in the towel yet. He starts his web search for a new job, and while searching goes off on a tangent looking up what he can do about an evil woman who destroyed him. He happens upon an obscure site called MGTOW. There are a bunch of guys there that have gotten some of the same treatment and they are talking about things he had learned himself the hard way. They tell him there is a better way. Just cut women out of his life and focus on his own happiness. But, isn’t giving up for losers, what will other guys think about him if he doesn’t have a girl, or is perceived to be unable to get one? They reassure him, that it doesn’t matter what others think, only that he does what he needs to, on his own terms to live the happiest life that he can. He finds a new job, puts in the time, finds a house this time an buys it free and clear. MGTOW introduce him to concepts that seem familiar from his own experience, tell their own stories and share concepts that he’d not learned or thought of. Over time his anger fades, he can barely remember the ex anymore. He has one hell of a nest egg stored up, 2 nice cars, the house, and takes trips to South East Asia twice a year (cause he likes the climate, not the brothels). For whatever reason, he kept on Facebook and posts all of his adventures and achievements. His ex, approaching her mid-30s and not doing well at all hits him up on Facebook, maybe they can give it just one more try. He politely declines and blocks her. He has no intention of being with her or any other woman. “The juice is not worth the squeeze.”
This is only one of the 1000s of possible stories. The underlying fact is that society and the law are stacked against men. If you associate with a woman you do it at your own peril. Dependent on level of association she can have you thrown in jail, prosecuted with no more evidence than her word, ruin your school career, ruin your work career, take your friends or alienate you from them, take your money, take your property, take your house, take your pet (or kill it), in some cases kill you and get away with it, manipulate you, abuse you and get away with it, rape you and get away with it, assault you and get away with it, have other men beat you, consign you to wage slavery, take your kids from you, and a host of other awful things.
For all of that risk, what can she give you? Faux/or real emotional support, semi-regular sex, children.
What do you stand to gain by removing women from your life? Less drama, less stress, less need for money, the greater hoard of money, more free time, more personal autonomy, no entanglements with the law, no tether
So, do the math here Reward – Cost = no relationship
no relationship * benefits of no relationship = happiness”
There are scores of articles for women on how to spot and avoid bad men. And let’s be straight up honest here, there are bad and evil men out there. There isn’t a lot of articles for men that fill the same purpose. Yes, I’ve come across a few in Maxim and FHM. I’ve also run across a few in some surprising places. Unless you know specifically where to look though finding these articles and books that deal with Relationships and Sexuality are very hard to find. Had more information been available people like Alec Minassian and Elliot Rodger may not have ever come along. How difficult is it you ask? I did a search at my local Chapters store where I live. I typed in Male Sexuality in the search engine and I got lots of books on couples, gay men, and female sexuality but not very much on men.
There are people much better at relationships and sexuality than I am. What I am good at is pointing out where the dragons and monsters are and how you can avoid them. This is what this blog is about. As I’m writing this I’m aware that this blog may have to be broken into parts to make for better digestion and absorption.
Let’s just clear something up right away here though
“Neroke! You’ve stated repeatedly that you’re a MGTOW yes?”
Yes, I have and the fact is that in the past few months I’ve become more devoted to being MGTOW than I thought possible. Yes, I do believe that first and foremost that going MGTOW will enable you to avoid all the warnings and signposts that I’m going to present here. No or minimal women no need right? Yes, absolutely here’s the catch though. Unless you’re planning on being a complete and absolute hermit you will still have female associations directly or indirectly. Which means that whether you like it or not having to deal with women is unavoidable. Having some basic human interaction skills will go a long way to avoiding difficulties. There are also some men once they’ve gone through the Red Pill Rage and figured out what they want for themselves, that may include having a woman around. Literally, every MGTOW content creator, blogger, and website owner goes on about the very real hazards and complications that women can bring into a man’s life. And let’s not kid ourselves given the current cultural climate they’re a lot of them. Most of the people reading this blog will know what these are all too well. (1*)
What you’re going to read here is a more of a scale than any kind of absolutes. There are indeed traits and signs that if you see a woman showing them you had better get the hell out before it’s too late. I’m also going to point out here that almost all of the women out there will likely have at least one of these. Which is why I’ve scaled this according to colors. These are Yellow, Orange and Red.
Like I just said almost every woman out there will have at least one of these. Which is why this is the lowest alert. One of these all by itself isn’t a reason to get out of seeing or dealing with a particular woman unless that reason is personal of course. What you do need to do here is that where this Yellow appears is usually some kind of indication that there are certain behaviors or habits, or other yellow flags may also appear. How many and what kinds these are and when you leave is up to you. Just remember though seeing a lot of these is never a good thing.
If you find a woman with an Orange Flag at absolute best you need to have clear and definite rules about what you will and will not tolerate. Any kind of violation of these terms is grounds for at least a warning. And that warning will need to be backed up with action should this woman choose to violate those boundaries or rules. Keep your cards close to your chest and have one eye on the exit. In fact, if you see an Orange Flag if you haven’t got an exit plan get one immediately. Don’t entwine yourself too closely to her unless you absolutely have to. Staying with someone like this long term is going to be AT VERY BEST Stressful, Emotional and Can and will wear you down if you don’t develop a proper support system.
Seriously! Get out NOW! This woman is toxic and dangerous. She can and likely will do something to you or someone you care about down the line that’ll take a massive amount of time, money, energy or any combination of them to repair. In some cases that damage may well be permanent and/or long-lasting. Strength isn’t the point here, a woman like this can wear down even the strongest man after a while. If you absolutely must sleep with a woman like this have an exit strategy and even if that strategy is practiced and rock solid you may still not escape intact. You may luck out and nothing will happen to you. Ultimately though you’re much better off moving on to someone else. (2*)
I had a hard time figuring out where to start here. There are some warning signs that are much more apparent then others and some of them will only become clear after you’ve been around the woman a while. I decided to start out with levels of engagement. Men are visual creatures which is exactly the reason why women put so much effort into their looks and why Feminists and Fat Acceptance screech so loudly about objectification and rail on dangerously and virulently against biology. So I decided to go with the straight up visuals as a first sign. So I’ll run through these as best I can to any person that gets offended at these.
So you’re somewhere, where that is isn’t important and you see this woman. You’re interested. (3*) You take a look if you’re a person who’s aware of the Red Pill you know all too well about the Gender rhetoric. As such a man you need to be aware of this. To the point that it’s unconscious and this kicks in without even having to think about it. This will be very important as this article goes on.
So you see HER! What does she look like? If she has any of these signs you need to note them right away.
Does she have brightly colored hair?
This picture sums it better than I can say it
There’s a reason why creatures in the wild are brightly colored like this. This is to advertise that they’re poisonous or very dangerous. However, this isn’t a foolproof method of detection as this picture shows below.
This needs to be paired up with other signs. Take Chanty Binx for instance
Now anyone that has any ability to read people can tell that this is a person that AT BEST has some serious anger issues, likely has got some mental illness and isn’t a person that you would want anywhere near you. In fact guys I don’t care how much you might click with this woman sexually (And there likely have been some guys that this has happened to) You need to go jerk off, find a professional redirect your sex energy do something but sticking your dick in crazy is asking for trouble (4*)
Does she have thick frame glasses?
Not an absolute killer just like brightly colored hair but well just have a look at this video of a woman who claimed that the comic shop she worked at here in Edmonton got Vandalized
Again that’s not to say that all women that have thick frame glasses are like this because most are not. You see this though you need to keep a watch for other signs as well.
While I’m not a huge fan of Return of Kings, you may want to consider this article
Does she have tattoos or piercings?
It all depends on what that tattoo is, where it’s located, how many etc. This applies even more so if they have piercings anywhere other than the ears and possibly a small one in her nose (5). That being said though when they look like this can you seriously call this beautiful?
Here are some more articles that give varying degrees of reasons why there need to be warning signs for women with Tattoos and Piercings
One thing about this article, in particular, is that the author Matt Forney got death threats for writing it. Which if you stop and think about it lends a lot of weight to the Women with Tattoos and Piercings are broken title
Here’s a couple more
OK, I get it! That’s a whole lot of Return of Kings. Something for you to consider here, Return of Kings is likely one of the few websites out there that will tell you about this topic. Before this generation, it was only people of poor standing that even got small tattoos much less the bigger ones. On a personal note here if I have to pick between two women and one of them is Tatted and the other one isn’t the one without them wins 98% of the time.
And I don’t even need scientific proof (6) to back this up. Just from direct personal experience I’ve witnessed women with Tattoos and Piercing act more melodramatically, aggressively and get into more disputes than other folks. There is also one other thing you need to know here
Does she have Tattoos or Piercing on her face, neck, front torso area? Or an abnormally large tattoo/piercing or tattoos/piercings covering most of her body.
This one is Orange almost to the point of being Red. The only reason it’s not red is that there are enough exceptions out there to suggest that there’s a possibility that she might not be completely broken or insane.
Is she a landwhale?
Do I have to say more? Just look at the pics. Unless you’re a chubby chaser the stigma of banging a woman this size is embarrassing. There’s no way of getting around the stigma that you couldn’t do any better and had to settle. Plus the fact that you still have to deal with all the other BS that women do except that in this case you also have to deal with the fact that she’s fat. And let’s not even get into the potential or very real body and health issues that this woman has. Which may or may not include hiring proprietary security to guard your fridge or pantry!
Addition: Added June 5, 2018
Cut Marks on her wrists or arms (Or anywhere else)
This is a sign that at one time or another this woman was in such a bad state that they felt that they either needed to self-harm (Borderline disorder). Or were in such a bad state that they felt that suicide or attempting suicide was an option for them. This woman has experienced or felt enough trauma to do this to themselves. You need to consider and remember that the factors that put her in this state of mind may still be present. Unlike a lot of the other factors though this one may slide up or down depending on what you find out later.
(1) To the people who interpret this a hatred of women, get a life and seriously get real
(2) Remember guys MGTOW is always an option, having had multiple encounters with Reds will show that to you. MGTOW is always an option before the shit hits the fan.
(3) MGTOW guys don’t tell me that you don’t notice, you may notice and look away but you still notice
(4) You’re going to hear me say this a lot here so get used to it.
(5) Not really sure why but there’re a large number of women who practice yoga that have this small ring in their nose! This, by the way, is one of the few exceptions to the piercing rule that I can think of
(6) Scientific proof helps a lot though
I first read this article late in 2017!
It’s not very often that I’ll do a response to someone who’s Anti-MGTOW because in all honesty unless the person is Red Pilled they either can’t or won’t be able to grasp the points of MGTOW or the Red Pill even if you say it to right to their face. You’re either awake, (not woke I’m not going anywhere near that SJW term) or not. There’s not really any transition between the two.
But Lee Woofenden you easily wrote one of the most insulting, ignorant and self-righteous blogs about MGTOW that I’ve come across. You pretty it up and there are some points for consideration in there. The only problem is ASSHOLE is that you spiced those points with shame and a tone that only a religious bigot could accomplish.
So here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to tear down your article, but not in the way you might expect. You see your blog was so insulting that you don’t really even deserve to be proven wrong. What I’m going to do is talk to the crowd and to my fellow MGTOW and Red Pill men so they may best learn how to deal with someone like you in the future.
Not going over to your blog to reply to you there. You have a problem with me you take it to my comments. Just remember YOU chose to write what you wrote so if my language and opinions about what you wrote comes across as harsh or unforgiving well you can pray to your non-existent sky deity for guidance.
And Oh yes let’s just get this out of the way for starters I’m an Atheist and there is no God, no Lucifer either.
So let’s get started on this sanctimonious blather
The first couple of paragraphs are just intro we can ignore them. Doesn’t take this guy long to go off the rails.
“If you spend any time reading MGTOW websites and forums, you’ll find them populated largely by men who have had hellaciously bad experiences in their relationships with women, and who have decided to opt out. Some continue to have one-night stands with women or use the services of prostitutes in order to satisfy their sex drive. Others “go monk” and become celibate. In this community, men actually brag about being virgins.
Needless to say, PUAs despise MGTOW as Dorito-munching, mother’s-basement-dwelling losers who are sad and lonely because they could never get a girl. And MGTOW despise PUAs as preening, hormone-driven pretty boys whose whole life revolves around the women they despise.”
Well, imagine that folks, we as a group have had bad experiences with women. We have anger and toxic feelings to process. But somehow this stunned fucking idiot equates that with “We despise women”.
Right there we know this just doesn’t get it! Somehow this idiot doesn’t get that anger needs to be vented. Of course, because Lee here is such an epic cuck he views this as despising women. Apparently, this guy has had such a tranquil life that he doesn’t grasp that anger and pain need to be processed and vented in a safe place. You as a MGTOW going through the Red Pill Rage process are perfectly entitled to vent as much as you feel you need to. A man going through this process needs the time and space to process these feelings. To anyone third party reading this no I don’t especially care if you think those feelings are valid or not. There are MGTOW that are mentally ill or damaged beyond recovery, those men are not the ones you roll out as examples for all MGTOW. Something that Lee does later on in this blog. Now if they remain stuck there then you have a problem anger though once expressed tends to burn itself out pretty fast.
“And MGTOW as a group do despise women.
These Red Pill men have woken up, not so much as losers, but as loners.”
Anger tends to happen when your boundaries have been violated. Let me make this clear to you MGTOW brothers. Being angry at the women that have done whatever they did to you is a legitimate feeling. It doesn’t mean that you hate all women, yes you have had experiences that have caused you to feel the need to be extremely careful around them. And in some cases, you’d prefer to even avoid them as much as possible. That doesn’t equate to despising them no matter how much ignorant assholes like Lee say it does. Now you as healthy person can put that anger behind you and move on. What I’ve discovered about trauma recently is that you never really “Get over it” what really happens is that you process it, learn from it and move on. Now if that process requires you to say things in anger then so be it. That’s what the forums are there for. Something here that Lee either can’t or won’t get.
“Most of them had their brush with women, got burned—sometimes quite badly—and decided that it’s better not to play with fire.
And if a man wants to be single, that’s certainly his choice. There have been single men throughout the ages. Some of them have done great things.
Of course and you know what that’s my and your choice as a MGTOW to make.
The problem is not so much in their deciding to become single, but in their intense disdain for and even hatred of women, and in their blaming women for all of their problems as men.”
Seriously you have got to LOVE how trad-con assholes like this intentionally ignore the other issues that have nothing to do with women. If you’re like me and have gone through the Red Pill Rage then you know that women by themselves are not the problem. Women have always been women it’s the current culture and laws have taken the worst aspects of women and allowed them to flourish. Now it really beats the hell out of me how Lee here could be so damn thick that he didn’t figure this out but well what do you expect from this guy? And here’s the catcher we’re just a couple of paragraphs into this drivel. Of course, I already know Lee’s next argument “But there are men like this”
Yeah, Lee! Stick that Straw Man where the sun doesn’t shine!
“Once more, as with the first article in this series, “The Red Pill Movement (MRA): Men Waking Up as Victims,” and the second, “The Red Pill Movement (PUA): Men Waking Up as Animals,” we won’t spend time describing the MGTOW community. You can get the basic idea from Wikipedia’s MGTOW article.”
Actually the Wikipedia MGTOW article got slaughtered after it first came out. The Wikipedia article mentions manginas like Mack Lameroux as a source for MGTOW when in fact his total research for this article consisted of looking at some rather biased sources and a short interview with Walking Away Man. How do I know this? Because I INTERVIEWED the man in the VICE article myself. Here it is for you to enjoy
The MGTOW movement has also gone through some changes over the years since it first identified itself in the early 2000s. For the “old school” view, see the blog “NO MA’AM” (now apparently inactive) and the original “MGTOW Manifesto”—which lacks the later hostility against women and the “marriage strike” that characterizes much of the MGTOW community today. Today’s MGTOW community is represented on the blog and forums at MGTOW.com and in the MGTOW subreddit at Reddit.com.”
“For men in the MGTOW community, these websites are breezy island havens from a hostile, gynocentric, man-hating world. For people not in the MGTOW community, they commonly look more like festering swamps of misogynistic bigotry.”
MGTOW moved past the original founders a LONG time ago Lee. People like Barbarosa, Spetsnaz, Thinking Ape and few others moved it to the next level. This tends to happen to movements. What happened with NO MA’AM” is no longer all the relevant. But well as we go along we’ll see here that Lee has his ass shoved so far up religious trad-con dogmas ass that he’ll never see that
Refer back to the need for men to have the space to process their feelings. But well if people like Lee had their way we’d all be walking emotional bombs. I have to openly wonder how many people are alive now because men have this place as opposed to acting out or dying on the inside from anger. Seriously Lee fuck you for even trying to shame men like this.
“In fact, one of the core dogmas of the Red Pill movement generally, and MGTOW specifically, is represented by the acronym “AWALT.” Here’s how it is defined at the RationalWiki’s slightly satirical “Manosphere glossary” (which is worth reading for its entertainment value alone):”
Well, I don’t know about you but I’m not here for Lee’s entertainment. Anyone that’s been around for a while that Red Pill and MGTOW are no more synonymous than MGTOW and MRA. There is overlap that doesn’t mean that they’re the same thing. Clearly, Lee never went over to the Red Pill Subreddit because if he had he’d know that The Red Pill Subreddit has very little to do with MGTOW. In fact, based on personal experience there that subreddit is quite hostile to MGTOW. In fact, Lee if you had bothered you’d have noticed that the Red Pill Subreddit is more of a PUA site than a MGTOW affiliation. I stopped posting my content there because the amount of ignorant content about MGTOW was staggering.
But here’s the basic definition of the Red Pill for you.
If you go into a MGTOW forum and say, “Not all women are like that!” (which has its own acronym: NAWALT), you will quickly be shouted down as an infidel and a heretic. AWALT is ex cathedra. It’s an established article of faith. You’re not allowed to question it.
And the MGTOW sites and forums are full of fervent testimonials to AWALT.
I don’t know about you but whenever I’ve used NAWALT at these sites I’ve never been angrily shouted down. I’m going to have to surmise that Lee here went all White Knight and used the same assinine condescending language at these sites that he used on his blog. Now if he’d done that there then yes absolutely you’ll get shouted down. Gotta point out here given what I’ve read so far that if I were a gambler I’d put money on that. Well, let’s just go back here. MGTOW especially the ones that have gone through the red pill rage, know that women aren’t the issue they’re a symptom. Just like how MGTOW is a reaction to this situation
See, for example, the article “Comments from Married Men” at MGTOW.com. It extracts comments from one of its forums on that subject, arranging them in nine sections that have no immediately discernible thematic organization. But the overall theme and message is crystal clear: DON’T BE AN IDIOT LOSER AND GET MARRIED!You’ll regret it every single day for the rest of your life!!!
You’ll regret it because the very second you slip the wedding ring onto her finger, your fun, intelligent, gorgeous, sex-loving soulmate will instantly transform into a fat, lazy, whining, nagging bitch who will never have sex with you again. The day after the wedding she will quit her job and flop down on the couch in front of the TV with a Dove Bar in each fist while simultaneously spending all of your money on plastic crap at Walmart and threatening to clean you out of everything you own if you don’t work 80 hours a week to feed her insatiable desire for clothing, shoes, jewelry, and a much bigger house than this hovel we live in.
Read ’em and weep!
Of course, it’s a self-selecting group. Men in happy marriages don’t go to MGTOW forums on the Internet and recount in lurid detail exactly how execrably atrocious their wife or ex-wife is.
But for those men who do have the misfortune of marrying a captivating young beauty who in the harsh light of the morning turns out to be a lazy, gold-digging harpy, the experience can be so traumatizing that when they see or think “woman,” that image of woman completely fills their field of vision. Nothing else exists.
And so they console one another: “AWALT, man!”
We already know that this can and does happen. Literally, every male I know and that I’ve discussed this with knows of at least one man that this is happening to. Lee here much like that idiot Brad Wilcox intentionally ignores this problem.
MGTOW.com Comments from Married Men isn’t a testimonial to all men everywhere that this is guaranteed to happen. But if you’re so thick to think that it can’t happen then well that’ll be on you not MGTOW. Lee here intentionally frames this is a section where bitter, angry men vent about their failures. Not what that section is supposed to be a road sign
This is a warning, that this can happen. You can be the perfect husband and on a whim thanks to no-fault divorce you run a risk of having your entire life taken apart by a misandrist and corrupt family law system. Both Lee and Brad Wilcox intentionally ignore this. Which is why we as MGTOW need to intentionally ignore them. Need more proof this a link to Divorce Corp.
Now factor this in with what you’ll read at MGTOW.com and you’d have to at the absolute least think really hard about ever getting married in this current cultural climate.
Lee here then goes on to use ONE EXAMPLE and projects this as an example for all MGTOW
The fully realized MGHOW
Here is the abridged testimonial of a successful MGHOW from the above-linked article:
Thanks to going to bed at 5:30AM after a relaxing night of surfing the internet and watching porn, I slept in a little bit late this morning. It was actually the afternoon – 12:25PM to be exact – when I finally sat up in bed, yawning and scratching my big bachelor nuts. . . .
So, anyway, I’m up at half-twelve. I had a nice cigarette whilst checking my e-mails. Then I had a coffee and another cigarette whilst playing a bit of Soldier of Fortune II until I got bored of shooting virtual people’s virtual brains out. A nice big fry-up followed. Mmmm… sausages and bacon. . . . Come two o’clock and I’m down at the local supermarket. I bought some booze, hamburgers, potatoes, bacon and waffles. I also bought some pizza that, right at this moment in time, I’m currently stuffing into my mouth. Munch munch. I’m also currently watching Beavis & Butthead. I downloaded a few episodes via BitTorrent the other day. It’s not even six and I’m pleasantly drunk, eating pizza and watching some great comedy. What’s planned for this evening? I’ll probably have a nice relaxing bath and read Viz whilst I’m soaking in the tub. Then I’ll probably have a few more glasses of wine and watch some of the many South Park and The Simpsons episodes that are lying around the Hard Drives of my five computers. Also, I’ve just reinstalled Deus Ex and I’d like to play some of that too. Who knows what the future may bring? Whatever I want it to, that’s what.
Are we supposed to be impressed?
We’re not here to fucking impress you or your Trad-con stooges Lee! Don’t care if you’re impressed or not. Granted I personally think living this way is a waste of time. But well that’s his choice to make not yours. And there was a period like this for me, I thought it was time wasted until I got to where I was now. I now see that period in my life allowed me the time to figure out where I was going. Such a process cannot be forced they get there when they get there. And when MGTOW get on to the other side just remember that we’re still not required to kiss Lee’s ass. He, however, is quite welcome to kiss mine.
As I was reading through this rambling Paean to the Modern Neanderthal Man, it actually started to get funny. I started thinking: This is just too perfect! Maybe the joke’s on us. Maybe this was written as a satirical caricature of a MGHOW. Maybe it will end with the punch line, “Hello, my name is ____, and I’m a MGTOW loser. But at least I don’t have to deal with a nagging bitch of a wife!”
But no, he was serious. He ended with this:
If I was married I would probably be standing in a stupid department store right now, looking at my watch and tutting whilst the wife decides which dress she’s only going to wear once she wants to buy with my money! But I’m not married. I’m an eternal bachelor. To put it another way, I’m eternally happy and free.
“Eternally happy and free” to do what? Totally waste your life?
Yes, my subheading is satirical. I’m well aware that there have been and still are many single men who do great things with their lives. And I’m sure there are many decent and productive men in the MGTOW community.
But with “testimonials” like that, is it any wonder that MGTOW have gotten a reputation for being Dorito-munching, mom’s-basement-dwelling losers?
Again you take as much time as you need to figure out who and what you are. It’s not Lee’s place here to tell you what you need to do or what you should be. Remember men the laws and cultural climate are stacked against us. This is a call for us to return to the plantation and pick up the yoke. But seriously why the hell would we want to, where’s the payoff? I already know Lee would like to pull out some Jesus crap or that you get to live your life a productive person. I LIVE as a productive person. You decide or have decided what’s best for you. The image isn’t important because we all know that MGTOW is a reaction and this reaction includes a checking out component. This component is essential if you’re going to figure yourself out. Maybe you need to exist as a minimalist for a few years to get there. It’s not Lee’s call to make, and quite frankly I don’t give a damn what MGTOW’s image is. The current system does more to promote MGTOW than anything you’ll say against it.
Oh yeah, that’s right with assholes like you what I’m saying is just conspiracy theory right? Yeah well go watch the Red Pill Movie and get back to me. Still going to be MGTOW when you’re finished.
AWALT is no excuse for LOSER
Okay, “LOSER” isn’t really an acronym for anything in the Red Pill movement.
But many of these Red Pill men, including a disproportionate percentage of MGTOW, have come to the conclusion that their life sucks and that it’s all because of those horrible, horrible females.
So once again I’ll say to Red Pill men: Stop blaming women for your problems. It’s not manly. And it gets you nowhere.
God damn, I can’t even remember how many times I’ve said this already. Women are a SYMPTOM, not the cause. Women have always been women. How about you get off your stool and get honest and look at the situation instead of using shaming language you EPIC CUCK!
If you’ve hitched yourself to a woman who tears you down and sucks you dry, then, by all means, do what’s necessary to extricate yourself from the situation. Or if that’s not possible (due to children, etc.), then take whatever steps you need to keep yourself sane.
But you still have to be a man.
Yes, and we’ll decide what that means for ourselves, not have some tradcon scream and lecture us as to what he ‘thinks’ we should be. You’re free to decide this for yourself MGTOW men.
You still have to take responsibility for your own life.
I am responsible for my life, and right now my responsibility is making sure some self-righteous asshole like you doesn’t get to decide what I should be. And every MGTOW is in the same boat.
You still have to follow your own goals and ideals, and work toward accomplishing something you believe in.
There are many men who are stuck in sucky marriages but who still do great things. They have drive, ambition, and a vision of what they want to accomplish.
We’ve all met men like this. Wouldn’t trade places with a man in that situation ever. And of course, I’m finding this ironic especially since he just finished attacking the “Comments from Married Men” at MGTOW.com. A couple of paragraphs ago. Now, who else does this?
Oh yes, Radical Feminists do this!
Of course, they would prefer to have a good marriage too. But they don’t let their bad marriage stop them from accomplishing their goals. For such a man, the focus is on accomplishments in the world of business or finance or politics or art. Where the money that flows from those accomplishments goes is a secondary consideration. So even if their gold-digging wives or ex-wives are bleeding them dry financially, they keep right on going.
And again no man is right mind would trade places with that guy. And knowing that this trap can be sprung on a man at ANY TIME in a marriage would make anyone think twice about it. Seriously fuck this nobly suffering part, well maybe in my case reading this blog by Lee is punishment enough.
I’m not saying this is a good situation. I’m not saying it’s right for women to leech off of men. Quite the contrary. Some women are indeed blood-sucking gold-diggers. And that is to their great shame.
Yep but hey you lost a leg in that minefield but you’re a man so go in again because society needs you! How stupid do you think I am?
Rather, I’m saying that if your focus is on money, possessions, and property, then a gold-digging wife is a life-ending disaster for you. But if your focus is on accomplishing something good and worthwhile in the world, you can keep being a winner as a man even if you are the loser financially in marriage or in divorce court.
So do what it takes to make your life work. Extricate yourself from a bad marital situation if you can. Protect what assets you can protect. But don’t blame your terrible wife, or that terrible, blood-sucking female race, or those terrible feminazis, if you are a failure as a man. That’s on your shoulders.
No, that’s not on my shoulders you ignorant shit. There are scores of magazines on racks in every supermarket and store that teach women how to put on their best face so men won’t see what they are until it’s too late. However, when such publications for men are released they’re demonized. Yes, folks, Lee is that thick that he doesn’t see that. No point in explaining it to him. But yes you know fellow MGTOW that this is indeed the case. Just look at what’s happened to RooshV. Now I’ll admit my opinions are mixed on RooshV but that doesn’t dismiss the level of harassment RooshV has had to endure even in attempts to warn men about potentially toxic women.
Men must take responsibility for themselves
So to the MGTOW specifically I say: If you want to be single, no problem. That’s your choice.
Damn straight it is, now GET LOST LEE!
But take responsibility for your own life. Do something good and productive with your time, energy, and talents. Don’t let your bad experiences with women be an excuse to check out of society and waste away your life in some isolated man cave.
I do and stop projecting your values about some non existent sky diety on us!
Once again, I speak from experience. I’ve been through the whole thing. When I was young (24, to be exact) and even more foolish than I am today, I married the wrong woman (we were not the best match for each other), and proceeded to have a marriage that was fine at first, but gradually went downhill until it ended in divorce twenty-four years later. By the time the divorce was final, I had spent half of my life in a deteriorating marriage.
Was that my former wife’s fault? It would be nice to be able to blame her. But the fact of the matter is that I was the headstrong young male who pursued her for nine years until she finally agreed to marry me. And though she is, of course, responsible for her own decision to marry me and for whatever she did during the marriage, I can’t avoid responsibility for the fact that I made and pursued the decision to marry her despite many indications that it wasn’t such a great idea.
And when the mismatched marriage finally broke up, it was my job to pick up the pieces of my own life and continue on to accomplish what I am here on earth to do.
Yup, because his experience means that every other male will just MAGICALLY have that happen to him too. And MGTOW is a purpose that men are going to chose. Keep trucking MGTOW despite what Lee just said here you’re enititled to your life.
That’s what it means to be a man. And the original MGTOW philosophy was not about dissing, denigrating, and blaming women, but about achieving one’s best potential as a man, regardless of what women do.
Second time the original MGTOW philosophy has been pushed past by the second generation who wrote a lot more eloquently and intelligently than the original founders did. This does happen sometimes so just lay off with ‘the original founders would be horrified crap” because.
- You aint one of them
- You’re not MGTOW
- Trad Con crap doesn’t fly here
For some men, this will mean being single. For others, it will mean being in a relationship or a marriage with a wog man.
Either way, a man is responsible for his own life. If you make bad choices or get yourself into bad relationships, that is still your responsibility.
I REALLY hope you’re not going into blame mode here because if you are FUCK YOU!
So although I know the men in the Red Pill movement hate to hear it, I’ll say again, as I said at the end of the first article in this series:
Man up, quit complaining, and do the hard work.
No, you fuck off and go be a cuck somewhere else. I and every MGTOW will take as long as we feel it’s required to figure out what we want out of our lives. That won’t be dictated to me by some Bible Thumping Trad Con asswipe who thinks he knows better because some non-existent sky diety quoted by barely literate goat herders said 2000 years ago is a good model for everyone.
If you want to be a man, you have to act like one.
OK, I’m going to be one here. And politely tell you to go have sex with yourself and mind your own business. You’re an idiot and haven’t got a clue what MGTOW is and that’s been clearly written down. You’re not MGTOW you don’t get a say. Your shaming language is pathetic and so are you, Lee.
There that ‘man’ enough for you?
This is it!
My Last official act of 2017. This is the one where I look back at this article
And we look at how well or how badly I did. I’ll admit I did review this article a couple of weeks back and it didn’t look like I’d done all that badly. Unlike last year when Donald Trump threw a wrench into the guessing this year no such thing occurred. But I know for a fact I got some of the guesses wrong and I think I bombed out on a couple of them. Like I said I’m doing this again and writing down the results as they appear. So while I think I did well I could’ve stunk up the joint.
Let’s the massacre of my supposed high intelligence begin!
- People hold their breath for President Donald Trump
Yeah, there’s one that didn’t happen! Antifa Riots, Million woman march and open declaration of war by Feminists and Regressives.
Yep, the regressives didn’t even wait for Donald Trump to make a mistake they just went ahead and started attacking blindly. In fact, it was speculated that if this was what it was going to be like for the next four years well…god help us all.
People did calm down, Antifa lost its teeth but the attacks on Trump continue.
But for this guess BOY did I ever get this one wrong!
2 The Establishment may attempt to distract us from the ever-widening internal culture war with an outside distraction.
There was some talk about North Korea, there were the usual (ever increasing) terrorist attacks in Europe and a bombing in Syria. The Administration didn’t attempt to ramp up any wars and neither did the Regressives attempt to throw any crumbles and bobbles our way for us to look at. They went and stayed on the offensive to the best of their ability. At least until their credibility also started to take serious hits.
In hindsight the mainstream media and the establishment wanted us to pay attention to them this year. They got what they wanted and now they’re in free fall just like the rest of the regressives are.
But for the sake of this blog, wrong again. Mostly because 1 and 2 are tied together to make it so.
3. Transparent attempts to crack down or censor the internet mainly alternative news sites.
YES! Got one right and boy did I ever hammer this one out the ballpark.
What stands out for me most though is the intentional lying about Pewdiepie
Got this one right (Finally)
4. Gamergate (or a form of it) is not dead back for round #2
Or you can just go to The Quartering to see what’s happening with Wizards of the Coast at the moment.
Either way, I nailed this one!
5. A Watering down of the Manosphere in general
This one is kind of hard to prove. MGTOW.com became the second largest site in the manosphere and A Voice for Men returned to its old prominence. More MGTOW, MRA, Red Pill, PUA etc sites got started up. An increase in size and attention will mean a larger variety of opinion thus a watering down. Nothing unexpected here so I’ll give myself a yes here.
6. A rise in the extreme right inside the movement
I saw more Anti-Semitism this year than I had in the five years before. I had one of these guys start to follow me around the manosphere to keep justifying his beliefs to me. I personally had to declare that any jew bashing (Anti-Semitism) on my Facebook group would get you booted. You know it’s getting out of control when guys like Turd Flinging Monkey have to start making videos specifically addressing this issue.
The comments section got so bad here that YouTube had to shut down both comments and ratings. Like I said in my guesses for 2018 blog, this is the ugly stepchild of the manosphere and it needs to be dealt with SOON!
Got this one right though.
7. More prominent divisions rising inside the Manosphere
The rise of the Alt-Right is proof enough for that. We also had people on our side attacking each other. There was a row between Candace Owens and Computing Forever
There was also another one that appears to have removed Kraut and Tea from the YouTube community for now too.
Just to make it clear on both of these people. Candace Owens took down Social Autopsy for me that’s sufficient. Dave Cullen had a higher standard and it’s his channel so he has the right to say that there. Kraut and Tea on the other hand? I wasn’t involved never really followed it. I liked most of what Kraut and Tea did and I hope he comes back. Don’t know enough about what happened to make a call on it.
I can say I got this one right 5 for 7 now, not bad considering how badly I tanked at the start!
8. Attacks on MGTOW happen with more frequency and ferocity
Well first we had this
Both of these stupid idiots started their channels in 2017. But for more example, we had this and a few others post up as well
This particular video got torn to shreds in the comments not to mention Turd Flinging Monkey did an epic takedown of this video.
Now this guy was really disappointing because he usually has an idea what he’s talking about
The real disappointment here was how he pinned this to the top of this video.
Yeah I pretty much say I got this one right
9. I’m not a Feminist or I’m not and/or antifeminist pronouncements rise quickly
This actually tapered off in 2017. Never mind that it’s picked up in a large way at the start of 2018. In 2017 this didn’t happen, likely because Feminists were more active and got more than a little help from the mainstream media
Got this one wrong
10. Yet ANOTHER months-long period of feminist and/or SJW stupidity
There were moments where it looked like there was going to be something like this. The Mainstream Media though did engage in epic levels of stupidity and did have periods where they did the same thing that other branches of the regressive community did.
Does the mainstream media count as SJW? I’m going to give myself a tentative yes on this. Again though as the start of 2018 has indicated the regressives seem hell bound to lose all the ground they gained in 2017.
1/2 point on this one
11. Very clear signs that Feminism is losing
Had the year ended before Harvey Weinstein got taken down it was really starting to look like this was going to happen.
Once this happened Feminists moved in a took Hollywood without much of fight, even going so far as to set up a potential McCarthy like commission to investigate sexual abuse in Hollywood
Now once again it appears as though Feminists have managed to shoot themselves in the foot as 2018 started. This MAY prevent the sexual misconduct commission from becoming too authoritarian too quickly. Or they may attempt to speed this up because of events that started, time will tell.
Now since this is about 2017 and not 2018 I’m going to have to go wrong about this one.
12. Things start getting violent
I’m just going to post up a few things about Antifa and let them speak for themselves
Battle of Berkeley
Yeah I know, sorry just had to post this.
Granted Antifa had lost most of their Mojo by mid-year. The violence didn’t extend through the entire year of 2017. Something for which I think we can all be grateful for. 2018 feels like a different beast, more like a kettle bomb going off from pressure at some point.
So yes I did get this one right, glad it slowed down towards mid-year though.
13. Outrageous and Blatant Lies
From the mainstream media? Oh hell yes absolutely!
I mean there are so many examples of it that I couldn’t possibly post all the content so here’s a link to it instead
14. Members of the various SJW factions start getting in trouble
Didn’t happen there were moments where it happened but you didn’t see the long hemorrhaging that had occurred inside regressive circles brought on by their own stupidity in 2017. UNLESS you cover mainstream news that’s another story altogether. For the sake of argument, I’m just going to put the mainstream media in the regressive camp here. They took the shots that the other factions couldn’t and probably wouldn’t have been able to take in 2017. As a result, they now are starting to find themselves in the same boat as them. If 2018 is any indication of 2017 for them it’s going to be a LONG year.
And oh yes got this one right
15. Bill Cosby Trial!
Harvey Weinstein ended up being the goat that Bill Cosby was supposed to be. The Cosby trial was a virtual non-event. Luckily (If you’re a feminist) Harvey fell into the void quite nicely. He provided the impetus and push that Feminism had at the end of 2017 to pretty much take Hollywood and to destroy more than a few careers in the process. The price paid for doing this was totally unexpected though. It wasn’t anyone on the Deplorable side of the fence that got taken down. Instead, Feminists fed on their own that strategy of cannibalizing their own allies though appears to caught up to them already.
So yeah it sort of happened just not with the person I thought it was going to trigger it with. So I sort of got this one right in the actions but not the person.
16. Virtue Signal Failure
Not as much as in 2016! But then again it would be very hard to ever duplicate 2016. Although based on what I’ve seen so far in 2018 it might be quite easily exceeded.
This one was going to be a pretty safe yes.
17. Call on Donald Trump to be impeached or resign by the end of summer
Full History here
Yep got this one right. In fact, there was another attempt made just a few days ago.
18. A Hard Right or Nationalist party wins a country (Or two) in Europe this year.
Czech Election Won by Anti-Establishment Party Led by Billionaire
Well now, Thank You, Andrej Babis for getting the win for me!
So how did I do? 13 1/2 out of 18 75% well now not bad for a bunch of guesses. I want to discuss more though on how I went wrong and how no matter how accurate any kind of model is, even one where I’m just picking what I think and feel are the most likely reactions based on previous experience. Events can sometimes take strange twists. Or like what happened when Donald Trump put a wrench into a lot of my guesses in 2016 the actions of one individual can and do count.
What did I get wrong and why did I get them wrong in my not so humble opinion
Number 1 I got wrong because I assumed incorrectly that there would be the usual honeymoon period for Donald Trump nothing of the sort happened. In fact with a little hindsight it appears as though a lot of what occurred might have been artificially inflated
Number 2 I got wrong because I assumed once all the insanity got started it would escalate quickly. It didn’t in fact it came in two sections one at the start of the year from Antifa and the back end being provided by Feminism. North Korea had some moments for Donald Trump and the Administration but they didn’t use this to distract from the homeland
Number 9 I got wrong there were a couple of factors. One being the move by social media sites to crack down on political wrong think. Another one was the apparent resurgence of feminism at the end of 2017. There’s also a case of a upswing will eventually top off. That doesn’t mean that they won’t start jumping on the wagon again in fact I’ve seen evidence of this starting in 2018
Number 10 I got wrong because while it did happen I didn’t expect that it would be the mainstream media and not the groups I expected.
Number 11 Never in my imagination did I ever expect that Feminists would devour their own allies for such a fleeting and temporary victory. Like I said before they captured Hollywood but have likely sped up their own demise
So I did OK, good thing nobody followed my guesses though I mean 75% is pretty good and worth a victory lap or two. I think it shows that my guesses can and should be taken with a grain of salt.