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A guy posted this up on The Red Pill Nation group on Facebook. I thought it was pretty profound and I encourage anyone who’s MGTOW or considering going that route to read what this guy posted.
Here it is in an edited for grammar form, Written by IceHeart Phoenix January 3, 2017
I’ve been MGTOW for a few months now and in that time I’ve come to realize something. Before you can accept the MGTOW path and truly begin your solo journey of self-discovery you must accept one simple (yet hard) fact. And that is…
You are irrelevant!
(Like I said, it’s simple yet hard to grasp and accept.)
With or without you, society moves on. With or without you, women still have about a 100 blue-pillers at their beck and call to serve at their every whim. With or without you, women still remain to be same as they’ve always been. Women don’t need you they don’t miss you are just a ghost that was at the fringes of her mind and soon as you woke up and took the red pill, ten other blue-pillers took your place, and you ceased to exist to her! You are irrelevant, Unknown! While you were present, your presence was ignored, and now that you’re gone, your absence is barely noticed.
(Harsh, I know. But part of being a red-piller is being able to accept the harsh truth for what it is.)
I see a lot of posts in this and other MGTOW groups from some of my MGTOW brothers, and the thought I read behind them is something along the lines of…
“I’m gone now, Take that bitches.”
Sometimes they make me laugh, at others, they make me arch an eyebrow, and at others it just makes me shake my head sadly. Because the sad truth is No, they are not taking anything. They never cared for you to begin with they are certainly not going to start caring now that you’re gone. The minute you walked away, they did too, on to the next blue-piller they could manipulate into doing their bidding.
I guess for some it’s a way of trying to work through the feelings of rejection or trying to validate yourself by trying to convince yourself that you matter to them, but the simple (yet once again hard) fact of the matter is that, YOU DON’T!
I’m not saying any of this to be mean or derisive to anyone, I have no quarrel with anyone, to begin with. And to be honest, I had a hard time accepting this fact myself. I just believe that the easiest way to move on and truly start your journey is to just stop being hung up on them.
Stop obsessively pointing out their errors, Stop trying to find examples of instances where they’ve blundered or suffered some form of misery. Stop trying to validate yourself via (click-bait) posts on the net of their drama and issues. Because while you are still doing all that, you are still lost and trapped in their net and web of well-fabricated lies.
The only way to truly win this fight is to simply not fight all together!
(Now, I’m fully and perfectly aware that one of the central tenets of MGTOW is that “you can’t define what MGTOW is for any other man apart from yourself.” So no, I’m not trying to define how to be MGTOW to anyone. I’m just sharing my two cents of something that’s been boggling my mind for quite a while now)
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I have a love-hate relationship with politics. On the one hand, it fascinates me how and what people will do to do get and maintain power leaves me dizzy. On the other hand, people that cannot or will not stop talking about politics non-stop have easily got to be some of the most annoying people on the planet. Yes, everything has a political element to it, that being said though 12 step programs have a political element to them that didn’t stop me a Liberal choosing a guy that was about as Conservative as you could respectively get in Canada as a sponsor.
This man was the Ying to my Yang giving me a perspective on things that kept me in balance and centred. More importantly, he taught me without ever saying it that you don’t judge a person by their political affiliation, you judge them by what they do. This lesson has been crucial to me as I got involved with the MRM then MGTOW. There are still people that still cling to the dinosaur that’s the old liberal/conservative orbit on this issue.
But that’s not the reason why I wanted to do this particular blog. I’ve been speculating on what’s happening in the 2016 presidential campaign and what it will mean for us in the Alternative media. Specifically what it’ll mean for us in the Greater Men’s Movement, Gamergate and the Red Pill.
I’ve already seen some very concerning trends develop in the last few months. For instance *1 There was an attempt early this year to platform the Gregory Alan Elliot verdict into an attempt to censor the internet and specifically Twitter. Which culminated in the one and only victory for feminism in the last few years when Roosh V had to pull back on his gathering.
Not that I’m a big Roosh V fan or anything but what I concluded from what I saw here was a coordinated and organised attempt to keep someone from holding a meetup.
There were also several MRA sites shut down because of mass complaints launched against them. In fact, I shared the blog by I-Hypocrite that documented what was happening
What you saw here was the beginning of the actual kickback from Feminists as they desperately try to regain an initiative that they lost in 2013 and never got back. Personally, I think Feminists and SJW’s should be thankful that the election came along when it did. After all, they’ve done a great job of defeating themselves at every turn even losing any ground that they might’ve gained earlier in the year. This election serves as a healthy distraction for everyone allowing them to post up some real idiocy that would normally get crushed.
But I’m 500 words into this, and I haven’t gotten to my actual point yet! Trump vs. Clinton what kind of effect will this have for us in the future. Whether you like it or not one of these two is going to be President. One sucks corporate dick, and the other one is a corporate dick. Glad I don’t have to pick one of them but then again I’d be voting Libertarian if I had the choice.
So you have two options here Trump or Clinton? While I’m not psychic or any other kind of person who predicts the future I can make educated and informed guesses. I’ve been surprisingly good at doing this but they are just guesses, and I freely admit that I could be wrong.
So two real options here Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump how will this play out? Please note here I’m stating what my personal preference is by the order or anything else.
Hillary Clinton wins.
Currently, Hillary is in the lead but only by a thin margin, and this is one of those elections that may drag out weeks afterwards much like 2000. I’m not convinced that this is a shoo-in for her the Democrats are using the same failed tactics that the Republican opponents to Donald Trump used.
But this about who’s going to win more like what will happen if Hillary does win. That will depend on the margin of victory. If Hillary wins in a landslide, then the Feminist/SJW camp will probably view themselves as being more secure than the facts would indicate they are. They will take the time to gloat laugh and otherwise continue to be dismissive of us going into 2017 even to the point that the winter and spring may be relatively quiet. They’ll view this in much the same way the conservative pro-war crowd views the 2004 election and will eventually go on the attack. And not just the clumsy poorly thought out blunders you’ve seen this year, but full-scale media assaults. Blatant lying thinly veiled suggestions that someone should do harm to us etc. The thing is that they’ll feel secure in their position and will respond in due time. The only problem is that someone or group will take this seriously and act accordingly. This will trigger that now infamous stage 4 event
Then it’s game on
A narrow win by Clinton though will induce a kind of panic. Yeah, Hillary won but damn that was close! There will, of course, be celebrating and joy by the Regressives but this is short lived. A slight win will serve as a wake-up call and will induce as much anxiety as it does the celebration. The attacks will start shortly afterwards, possibly while Barrack Obama is still in office *3 . The reason for this is simple, given what Hillary Clinton just spoke about the Alt Right tonight there is very little doubt in my mind that she will tacitly endorse this move. Much like there’s been a lot of speculation about Barrack Obama quietly endorsing what has been going on with Black Lives Matter *4
Things will come to a head much sooner bolstered by probable silent approval from the top the attacks will come hard and fast. The fading social capital that the regressives have will get spent much faster than in the first scenario. Stage 4 trigger event could come in as little a 6 months to a year. There’s also the very real possibility given Hillary Clinton’s already bad record that we could see the first one and done President since 1992.
So no matter what the margin of victory here the culture war starts sooner rather than later
Donald Trump wins
Let’s be honest here Donald Trump needs to be a little quieter! The culture war is still coming the only difference here is that unlike the margin of victory here. What happens with Donald Trump will depend on how competent he is. I’m going to give both options if you disagree with me, well for this story to work I have to do both. I’m not giving either of these two any endorsement. So we have a choice between a competent Donald Trump and an incompetent Donald Trump
Competent Donald Trump could be the answer to more than a few of the ills that are plaguing the United States right now. And he’ll need all his capability to deal with the constant attacks that he’ll be facing in his first year. Donald Trump is many things some of them good some of them bad. What he isn’t though is the choice of the establishment and I’ll even go far as to say that he may well be a victim of either an impeachment or assassination in his first 12-18 months. Especially if he turns out to be more competent than expected.
What this means is that the regressives will likely be spending the first year or two going after Trump as opposed to engaging in an all out attack on the seven deadly anti-feminist groups *5. In fact what you’ll see is a kind of reset button hit the sniping will continue and much like how it’s been going for the last couple of years. The real difference is that the regressives will have more time and space to organize themselves. What you’re also going to see as Donald’s term in office continues we’ll start running into larger and more blatant attempts to censor the fight as we go along. You’ll see more of those Trust and Safety Councils spring up as the fight slowly and inexorably starts to heat up again.
With some luck, Donald and the people in the Oval Office might be able to keep a lid on things possibly even as long as 2018 or 2019
An incompetent Donald Trump is another story. The establishment will quickly realize that Donald Trump isn’t all he’s cut out to be. That still doesn’t rule out things like either an assassination or impeachment it just makes it less likely and much less urgent. What this will mean for us though is that the regressives will cease their attacks on Donald and swing around and come at us. So in this scenario I see things going critical later than it would with a competent Donald Trump but still later than it would with Hillary Clinton.
But before we all celebrate the fact that Donald Trump’s election delays these events. For all intents and purposes when it does go off the explosion will be much larger because there will be more energy behind it when it goes, simply because there was more time before the critical point was reached.
Either way, it’s going to blow, at this point, I seriously doubt that regressives have the necessary foresight to realize how self-defeating they’ve been. Much like how certain people have chosen to bury their heads in the sand of global warming. Regressives will keep their heads buried in the sand until it’s too late. But for those people in the Manosphere who believe that going Conservative or Liberal, Republican or Democrat is going to solve this? It won’t this election is about moving the seating arrangements on the Titanic at this point. Saving this society will mean that you as a person will have to take individual action, not wait for big daddy government to come and save you.
Remember folks politics is a loaded issue and what I just wrote here is sheer speculation on my part, not a wish list. So let’s stay away from the dogma if we can.
*1 I have nary a shred of proof to back up the Twitter claim. There were an odd series of coincidences right around the time of the Gregory Alan Elliot verdict.
*2 Not that the article in question didn’t get crushed in the comments anyway
*3 NO SOONER than today (August 25, 2016) Hillary Clinton herself took shots at the Alt Right movement. While I’m not Alt Right myself I found the timing of this very ominous indeed. Links provided below including a piece from Davis J Aurini
*4 Again I have no facts to back up that point it’s pure speculation on my part and more than a few posts saying that’s what he did. Did he do it? I have no idea but given what I’ve seen from Barrack Obama it’s not out the question.
*5 I got this name from this bullshit article at Oxygen.com the Seven Deadly Anti-Feminist Groups are, Gamergate, The Alt-Right, New Atheists, Men’s Right Activists, Red Pillers, MGTOW, Pick Up Artists
Committed suicide December 29, 2013
A Fathers Suicide note
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A Father’s Suicide Note
by the family court system,
Christopher Mackney, 45,
Dec 29, 2013 in Washington DC.
The love that my daughter and I shared was truly special. She is a such a sweet, kind and gentle spirit. I am so sorry that I will not be there to see her grow into a beautiful woman. It absolutely crushed me to not be in her life over the last three years. I worked very hard as a father to build her confidence and self-esteem. She is smart, funny and considerate, but she didn’t know it yet. I pray that she realizes her strengths and her confidence in herself will continue to grow. I love you dearly, Lily.
My son Jack was just entering Kindergarten, when I lost access to him. He is gregarious, outgoing and a great athlete. He is smart and fearless. He could have just as much fun by himself as he could with other kids. Even the older boys in our neighborhood wanted to play with Jack. It absolutely breaks my heart that I will not be able to help him grow into a man. I love you to, Jack. I miss you both so much.
My identity was taken from me, as result of this process. When it began, I was a commercial real estate broker with CB Richard Ellis. I lived by the Golden rule and made a living by bringing parties together and finding the common ground. My reputation as a broker was built on my honesty and integrity. When it ended, I was broke, homeless, unemployed and had no visitation with my own children.
I had no confidence and was paralyzed with fear that I would be going to jail whenever my ex-wife wanted. Nothing I could say or do would stop it. This is what being to death or ‘targeted’ by a psychopath looks like. This is the outcome. I didn’t somehow change into a ‘high-conflict’ person or lose my ability to steer clear of the law. I’ve had never been arrested, depressed, homeless or suicidal before this process. The stress and pressure applied to me was deliberate and nothing I could do or say would get me any relief. Nothing I or my attorneys said to my ex-wife’s attorney or to the Court made any difference. Truth, facts, evidence or even the best interest of my children had no affect on the outcome.
The family court system is broken, but from my experience, it is not the laws, its the lawyers. They feed off of the conflict. They are not hired to reduce conflict or protect the best interest of children, which is why third parties need to be involved. It should be mandatory for children to have a guardian ad litem, with extensive training in abuse and aggression.
It is absolutely shameful that the Fairfax County Court did nothing to intervene or understand the ongoing conflict. Judge Randy Bellows also used the Children as punishment, by withholding access for failing to fax a receipt. The entire conflict centered around the denial of access to the children, it was inconceivable to me that he would use children like this. This is exactly what my ex-wife was doing and now Judge Bellows was doing it for her.
To all my family, friends and the people that supported me through this process, I am so sorry. I know my reactions and behavior throughout this process did not always make sense. None of this made sense to me either. I had no help and the only suggestion I got from my attorneys was to remain silent.
At first, I did what I was told, remained silent and listened to my attorneys. Then after I had given my ex-wife full custody to try and appease her, I learned about Psychopathy and emailed Dr. Samenow about my concerns and asked him for help. Of course, I was ignored. As the conflict continued, I was forced to defend myself. When that didn’t work, I thought I could get the help I needed by speaking out. There is no right or wrong way to defend yourself from abuse. Naively, I thought that abuse was abuse and it would be recognized and something would be done. I thought speaking out would end the abuse or at least get them to back off. It didn’t. When no one did anything they were emboldened.
I took my own life because I had come to the conclusion that there was nothing I could do or say to end the abuse. Every time I got up off my knees, I would get knocked back down. They were not going to let me be the father I wanted to be to my children. People may think I am a coward for giving up on my children, but I didn’t see how I was going to heal from this. I have no money for an attorney, therapy or medication. I have lost four jobs because of this process. I was going to be at their mercy for the rest of my life and they had shown me none.
Being alienated, legally abused, emotionally abused, isolated and financially ruined are all a recipe for suicide. I wish I were stronger to keep going, but the emotional pain and fear of going to court and jail [because of exorbitant child support] became overwhelming. I became paralyzed with fear. I couldn’t flee and I could not fight. I was never going to be allowed to heal or recover. I wish I were better at articulating the psychological and emotional trauma I experienced.
I could fill a book with all the lies and mysterious rulings of the Court. Never have I experienced this kind of pain. I asked for help, but good men did nothing and evil prevailed. All I wanted was a Guardian Ad Litem for my children. Any third party would have been easily been able to confirm or refute all of my allegations, which is why none was ever appointed to protect the children or reduce the conflict.
Abuse is about power and control. Stand up for the abused and speak out. If someone speaks out about abuse, believe them.
Please teach my children empathy and about emotional invalidation and ‘gas-lighting’ or they may end up like me.
God have mercy on my soul.
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I’m sure almost everyone that’s reading this blog has had someone report them to Facebook for some reason or another just to be a dick about it. Well someone managed to uncover a gap in the reporting system. This blog shows you how to find out who it was. Note here this only applies to people who do this AFTER you’ve been reported in the future it doesn’t allow you to uncover anyone from the past as far as I know.
That’s all I can say about the events. This whole soap opera began two Wednesdays ago when I caught myself doing something I hadn’t done in a few years. I was on my way to a coffee shop specifically to see SK! So I had a crush, and I was actively pursuing.
Not unexpected I’ve read and heard several MGTOW talk about how after they became MGTOW and got completely comfortable and OK with that fact that women just started appearing out of the blue. Even though there were in some cases better looking, more qualified men around. Or even in SK’s case, she was already seeing someone else!
It’s not like women have some built in loyalty to their boyfriends either. I have personal experience with this and being the other guy does suck. That fact all by itself should’ve been enough to end any continued association right there. I didn’t end it right there; I kept going to this coffee shop. After all, I had been going to this place long before she was ever working there and I’ve been going there for before for reasons that had nothing at all to do with her. My refusal to live in a box and go so far as some men have done and reduce my interactions with women to nearly zero wasn’t an option for me. While I respect the fact that it might be OK with you, keep in mind that everyone’s life is different.
I had to process this situation and come to a solution. I also had to let people around me know what was going on and get feedback.
The first question that came up was “Is she interested in you?”
Good question because if this had all just been in my head, then I could’ve just decided not to feed that wolf any longer and resume my normal routine. Simply stop feeding the wolf so to speak.
There were more than a few opportunities to use my old PUA skills to determine if there was interest. I was hoping that this was all in my head. All I can say is that after a couple of days of testing the IOI’s were legitimate and that this was the real deal.
OK, so now I had to move on to the next question. Which was, do I follow up and actively pursue SK or not? The answer to this was blatantly obvious of course not! But not because of some slavish devotion to the principle of MGTOW. I’m a firm believer in the concept and choice for a man to become MGTOW and for that same man to leave MGTOW if he chooses to. I’m also keenly aware of the risks involved in a choice to leave MGTOW. A man choosing not to be MGTOW any longer isn’t any less of a person. But of such a man just blindly goes running back in without taking the lessons he’s learned from his time as MGTOW then that man is truly a fool.
In my case, it was an easy choice to make. I’m spread out pretty thin right now, adding a relationship with a woman that’s already seeing another guy right now isn’t a good idea. That got brought home to me in a big way yesterday when I went back to this coffee shop. Ironically enough I went there in the morning because I knew that SK doesn’t work the day shift, and she wasn’t going to be there. Except this time she was there! I’ve done blogs, personal work and all other sorts of various activities with her in the shop in the past. This time, though I couldn’t focus on what I needed to do.
Luckily for me, there’s a regular AA meeting house two blocks from this coffee shop. So I just said, “Fuck this shit, I’m going to a meeting to deal with this.” Got to the meeting, shared got it off my chest felt a whole lot lighter. And took the lesson of the need to be more inclusive in my life with me, then went to have lunch.
It was while I was eating my lunch that I had the epiphany! Walking away was a solution to the problem of SK, but it wasn’t going to be a permanent solution! It was just more of me kicking the can down the road, which was why I needed to do such an extensive inventory in the first place. So not going back to that coffee shop is a temporary solution to a permanent problem. And I had to also call myself out the fact that I went to that particular coffee shop. There are Seven other places like this one within two blocks of this location. I could’ve gone to them got done what I wanted to get done and then moved on with the rest of my day. In short, I had to own up to my personal actions, and I also had to admit that unless I applied a more permanent solution to this problem, I would repeat it over and over again. I then found it somewhat Ironic that an Athiest would ram his middle finger straight up in the air and scream out “Fuck You!”
It felt a little better after I did that.This is the whole Karmic lessons issue dropped on my lap. I need to learn the lesson that I have an obligation to myself. I’m at a critical point in my life, and SK will not provide any solution to this issue at this time. My feelings about SK were making my life unmanageable
SK will not provide any solution to this issue at this time. I was pretty upset about this because I’m sick and tired of playing this song and dance now. I didn’t enjoy it in my twenties or thirties, and I hate it even more now. I had to do something different this time! But I wasn’t sure what that different thing was going to be. Not going into the coffee shop wasn’t the permanent solution going in there was also out of the question as well. It was likely only a matter of time before I did something stupid and desperate. Leaving for a while and then coming back would also not be a solution because the feelings would still be there. And this whole issue was taking up space in my head and distracting me from some much more pressing issues in my life.
So I went to another meeting, the topic of that 12 step meeting was step one.
I applied the principles I learned there to the problem while I was still at the meeting.
Step 1- I’m powerless over this issue, and it’s making my life unmanageable.
Step 2- Am I willing to let a higher power restore me to sanity over SK? The big question when it comes to an atheist. What I did here was pop the question “What do I do to restore sanity to this?”
Step 3- Was I willing to let the universe provide me with an answer if I was open to it.
Step 4- Quick inventory what caused the problem, what was my problem in it? What had I done wrong AND what had I done right.
Step 5- Admitted that this was an issue to myself, to the universe and another human being. Which I did during the meeting when I shared on this topic again.
And the solution was to leave the coffee shop for a period until things settle down and stabilize in my life. But not just that I had to clear the air with SK before I made it official. So I headed down there again, hoping that she wasn’t going to be there, but she was.
I pulled her aside first chance I got and said this to her
“I have to leave this place for a while? I like you a lot, but I have to work on myself right now.”
I then turned around and walked out of the coffee shop!
Now was this all in my head? No, it wasn’t
Did I hurt her feelings? Don’t know but I’ll find out
What’s going to be her reaction? I don’t know that either
Does it even matter? No, I lose one coffee shop for a few weeks while I sort things out.
There won’t be any more nonchalant pretending anymore when we see each other again, and we will see each other again. I pass that shop three or four times a day sometimes a bus stop is right in front of the coffee shop too.
What it comes down to though is this. I can’t make the wheels of government move any faster. I can do some things to make my film career move faster, but there’s a factor of luck that plays into it. There was something I could do about this issue, and I did it. It’s only been eleven hours since it happened, so I don’t know what the consequences are, but I’ll live with them.
I didn’t repeat the same mistake over again. I didn’t lie or cheat like Sisko had to in this video, but I can live with this with a clear conscience
On March 20 I put this out.
It was a completely speculative piece where I made some educated guesses as to what would happen in 2015. Now I put myself under the lens and see how well I did. I made 21 guesses, some of them were pretty good some of them were wrong. Others were sorta right or took a turn that I didn’t anticipate. But let’s take a look at them and how well I performed
1.Metalgate will go nowhere!
Planted this one! This really isn’t a surprise SJW’s had been doing well mostly because people couldn’t see them coming. By the time they got to Metalheads that discretionary cover had been blown away. Metalheads were manning the watchtowers and what few moves were made failed miserably. Given what happened with the three conventions last spring (Calgary Expo, RavenCon and DenverCon), their legitimacy and power are simply not there anymore.
2.Anita Sarkeesian steps out of the tower and…
2a. The next move by anti-GamerGate will also fail
The Nightline piece was the beginning of the end for her and Jonathan MacIntosh! They were unable to control the dialogue even with people actively trying to censor opposing opinions; mine included
Despite this though the Nightline story simply got crushed under the weight of numbers.
Not only was her first major mistake it was the only time she would go public until her appearance at the UN. Which by the time it happened was the equivalent of a hail mary pass that didn’t get caught.
Going to give me a thumbs up on this one, having both of these guesses tie together so nicely like they did was a stroke of luck on my part.
3.An Increase in the number, but not the quality, of hit pieces directed at the MRM
After the absolute fiasco that started off the year. Feminists and SJW’s laid low for the spring and first part of the summer. But when they came back they came back and screwed up HUGE. Not only did they screw up huge but they came dangerously close to turning RooshV into a martyr.
There was a steady and slow meltdown from that point. VICE, Buzzfeed and Huffington Post lead the way as out and out hit pieces on MGTOW were published. Huffington Post and a few other places did everything in their power to try and prove a Facebook group called No Hymen no Diamond was an MRA site. All the way to the point where on December 21 VICE and GQ Britain dropped all pretense of fairness and just published blatant hate pieces.
I think I can say I guessed right about this one
4. The rise of the Anti-MRA Feminist
I didn’t see this as much as I thought I would but it was there. There are signs that Feminists are starting to organize. The articles by GQ Britain and VICE, for instance, may have been coincidental. If they are then, I’d say that was one hell of a coincidence.
5. The parallel rise of the bargaining feminist.
Earlier in the year, Natasha Devon and The Femthiest! of all people came out with moderate articles. Natasha Devon would lose her credibility with an article later in the year, and The Femtheist appears to have gone very quiet on the whole issue.
However, late in 2015 Skeptic Feminist would appear. I will admit from what I’ve seen so far they appear to have more critical thinking skills in five minutes than Steve Shives uses in five months. They appear to be the start of the bargainers, feminists that would rather discuss solutions than fight.
The jury is still out on this bunch with me. They are doing better than He for She did though
Going to say that I guessed right on this one
6. Feminism starts calling on allies
Didn’t see as much of this as I thought I might! Mostly because the backlash after the August debacles was much stronger, more intense and sooner than expected.
Missed on this one not as much as I thought but it’s still a miss
7. The official arrival of MGTOW as an independent movement.
DING! I can pretty much say I nailed this one on the head. At one point this year several MGTOW even went as far as dogpiling Paul Elam. Sandman at one point also either had one of his comments taken out of context or said something on purpose. MGTOW showed that it was just as capable of breaking down into various factions. On the other hand, it also became a stand alone and not tied in with MRA. The axiom I think that fits are not all MGTOW are MRA, and not all MRA are MGTOW. Try telling that to the idiots at VICE, though. My online fight there with one individual was so prolonged that I had other people openly calling on me to walk away. Which I was considering. Luckily for me the guy I was dealing with quit before I did.
Bottom line here that VICE article and the fact that Wikipedia recognized MGTOW as separate from the MRM are clear signs that it’s arrived. MGTOW also got to put the exclamation point, on the whole, gender issue this year.
8. The Politicizing of the larger men’s movement.
Not as much as I thought. There were the usual suspects that were calling for conservative men’s movement. And there was some pointless grandstanding on the gay marriage issue. But overall this didn’t happen as much as I thought it might. Which is good because if there’s an issue that could grind the greater men’s movement to a crawl at this point, it would be to get caught up in the whole Liberal/Conservative spin wheel.
9. A growing change in trends
Haven’t seen the stats although articles I’ve read (But cannot find at this moment) suggest that on issues like child custody, alimony, domestic abuse, etc. Things are starting to balance out. One very specific example that happened this year was when Halle Berry for the Nth time tried to play the abuse card on her husband and instead of just taking it they hit back
Not surprisingly Halle went very quiet after this happened
10. More false allegations will be exposed
This is a miss! Yes, there was Emma Sulkowicz and her mattress girl drama. But beyond that, there wasn’t a smoking gun false allegation this year. However, this ties into the next issue.
10a. Title IX Lawsuits the cows come home
Paul Nungaser did launch a lawsuit against Columbia for good reason. There was no back-breaking event on campus when it came to men’s issues. There was such an event with Black Lives Matter movement at several universities. How much of a spillover effect it has on the gender issue remains to be seen.
11. Increasing numbers of public people coming out as not feminist
Meryl Streep was front and center in this. Ironically she was also the star of the movie Suffragette. I wouldn’t call this guess an out and out slam out of the ballpark. More like a single or double.
12. Some public person will get attacked by Feminists and still stand
Five days ago I would’ve started yelling “Bill fucking Cosby!” but he got arrested and charged before the year was over. James Deen also got accusations thrown his way. This, of course, resulted in several other women in the industry dog-piling him. Which if you’re familiar with how accusations like this work isn’t at all surprising.
Now, I’m going to reserve judgement on both of these men. But I will point out though that in regards to James Deen and his accuser. To my knowledge, you don’t usually allow your rapist to go and do a scene on your website FIVE WEEKS after the alleged event took place.
While there wasn’t a person that survived the assault Protein World took a massive barrage as well and it did survive the assault despite the bomb threat sent to it
Protein world didn’t cave though instead they put up a massive sign in New York. Now if that’s not a massive fuck you to feminists I don’t know what would be. A person didn’t survive but a company did.
13. For the first time, a Feminist Figure will get into serious trouble
Didn’t happen so I missed on this one. That’s not to say that Feminists didn’t engage in rampant levels of stupidity this year.
This list doesn’t include the battle of Montreal, Expogate or Jessica Valenti’s failed attempt at keeping a video of her bombing out at a debate from going public.
No one feminist went down in flames Feminism itself did a great job of shooting itself in the foot this year. One thing I haven’t seen this year and it does stand out for me. We don’t have anyone trying to say that 2015 was a great year for feminism
14. Houston, we have a problem!
Yep, we have a problem alright! ICMI didn’t happen this year. In 2014 ICMI was the biggest single win for the men’s movement. ICMI in 2014 endured everything that Roosh V had to deal with in Montreal in 2015 plus more and still went ahead. They’re not having an event in 2015 was understandable. Cancelling the event in Houston though, means that the event this year in London must be held.
15. An organized Anti MRM men’s movement
We can start with that other men’s convention in New Jersey earlier this year. That was a start as 2015 progressed I began to see more feminists and white knights coming on to men’s sites and flaming. I also saw what looked like a group of feminists putting together a site on Facebook then trying to pass it off as an MRA site. There was also the very coincidental timing of two blatant hate pieces put out by Vice and GQ on December 21. The timing of these two pieces might be coincidental, but if it is? It’s one hell of a coincidence.
Another factor that both these idiots did though they played their hand a little too early. We have the entire holidays to spread the warning around about this.
16. Fewer but more dangerous White Knights
I had one engagement with a White Knight on one comment section where I had to tell the guy NINETY THREE TIMES! That Elliot Rodger wasn’t in any way connected to men’s rights or MGTOW. There was another guy on the recent GQ article that simply kept lying and posting up cherry picked studies and was told me SEVEN times that getting the last word in doesn’t mean you win by default! Did he listen? Nope, what he did do though was change his name so his failures and contradictions were harder to find. So the more dangerous is clearly true at least in my experience.
As for there being fewer of them? Had the year ended in September I would’ve absolutely said yes! After August though and the reality of the situation began to sink in with Feminists. White Knights the started crawling out of the woodwork again.
So now we have more White Knights and more dangerous ones as well.
Tentatively this guess was right, I didn’t anticipate that the backlash would come as fast as it did. I certainly didn’t see the cheap shots coming just before Christmas.
17. Active talk about Female conscription
Yes, there was plenty of talk about this.
18. A spreading out and division inside Feminist Ranks
Up until 2013 Feminists had to deal with a couple of annoying little gadflies in the form of the MRM and Sad Puppies.
Now though, you can add Gamergate, MGTOW and Rabid Puppies to the mix. If you also factor in plummeting support and a growing awareness of Feminism and Social Justice are in their current forms. You have a recipe for someone doing something desperately stupid
19. Feminism in trouble
Not as much as you might think. One thing that is gone from the Feminist movement is the arrogant swagger that they were showing at the end of 2014. The meltdown started in the spring, cooled off and then once August came around heated up big time. I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that after August the tactics of Feminists and SJW’s became more aggressive, blatant and desperate.
So I sort of got this one right. But not as much as I thought.
Not bad got a dozen or so right and few others were partially right. I also got three or four wrong plus another half dozen where I was sort of wrong and sort of right.
The Greater Men’s Movement isn’t above having issues of its own to deal with as well. AVfM, for instance, has seen support for its site plummet since September to the point where it gets fewer hits than We Hunted the Mammoth.
Great year for the Men all around. That being said though other than Roosh V and his win at Montreal there were very few out and out wins. Long term relying on Feminists and SJW’s to self-destruct isn’t going to work.