Quora is a very interesting site!
It’s chock full male feminists, feminists, SJW’s, Regressives (Neo-Liberals) and the like. Many of them feel compelled to answer on issues that they have no idea about but like to pretend that their opinion about MGTOW actually means something. In truth, it doesn’t but every once in a while I stumble upon an answer that’s just so brilliant that it needs to be shared widely. This is such an answer written by Robert Basso to the Quora question that I’ve used at the title.
This guy deserves an upvote so please feel free to go over and give him one. There are scores of us that have had this very same experience and can identify. Fuck the bad boys, fuck gynocentrism, fuck marriage. I’m free in ways you cannot possibly even conceive. And won’t as long as you keep taking the blue pill
“Let me answer this with a scenario. A boy is born, for the first 12–15 years he is taught that women are the greatest thing since sliced bread, they are beautiful, they are wonderful, they are never wrong, they don’t poop, every man should aspire to be graced with the presence of one in his life as a friend, or partner. They will love you as intensely as you love them, for you not shallowly. They will be loyal to you, as you are to them, they are incapable of lying or duplicity, and are all around the superior creature, men are all truly blessed if they know any or are lucky enough for one to like them. Meanwhile, the girls are taught that they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, they can do anything they want to do, be whoever they want to be, have anything that they want to have. Every one is a special princess in their own right, no matter what they do or don’t do.
For the first several years of public school, everything is good, then puberty hits. Unbeknownst to the boy, conditioning has set the girls sights far higher than they should be, and they are only interested in the top male specimens (20 or so percent). This boy is good looking and fit, he falls into the 75th or so percentile, which means that he is short of what girls are interested in. As a result, throughout the rest of his high school career he finds himself in the friend zone, being used on occasion for favors and the like, always being lead on that there might be a relationship in it for him if only he did enough, or was good enough to a girl (cause they will love you for that heart of gold, right?). Well, he leaves high school with the impression that something went wrong, and maybe college will be different, must have been him, cause these perfect loving creatures could not have been so shallow to be after the jocks for their looks, or the rich kid for his money. He goes to college, and is not terribly successful with girls, but continues to be that friend to cry to, the one who has 20 bucks to lend, the one who can give her a ride home after drinking too much, the one that can help her move to another dorm, but just not relationship material. One day though, he finds a “different girl”, and she gives him a little attention. They start going out. He uses his meager money to buy dinners, give her gifts, etc. He thinks things are going well, but suddenly she is done with him (either ghosts him, or has the courtesy to break up with him), and within a week she is with some bad boy that treats her like absolute trash, but seemingly it is like ambrosia to her. The kid catches on quick and emulates some of that behavior, and since he is not bad looking and fit he get into a string of FWB and short relationships. Sex becomes passe (he can take or leave it), and his eyes are finally beginning to open. Girls can be just as shallow as guys, they care more about money, looks, and prestige than substance. Everything that he has been taught about them is seemingly a lie.
He is nearing the end of college, and isn’t dating much, he has seen behind the curtain and is angry that he will never know the love he was lead to believe existed. Then he meets a girl, he is skeptical, but she is “different from all the other girls”, she even tells him so. They start going out, and it is great. She is great, she is all the things he was told she would be, she is loyal (though she always texting and secretive with her phone, beautiful (though she does wear a lot of makeup, loves him for him (though he spends a lot of money). Heck, she may be the one, marriage material. Courting goes on for about 3 months, and then she becomes distant. Present, but distant as she seems more fond of that phone than him. He tries all sorts of tricks to prove his love, gifts, vacations, you name it.. All stops are pulled as he is trying to hold on to her. She seems contented, though the phone never stops buzzing. By this time he is in his first job after college. He has rented an apartment which she lives in with him for free, while she “finds herself” and finishes her humanities degree. He is putting in 50–60 hours a week keeping the bills paid trying to build a life for them, and one day he decides that being with her is worth more to him than the money that day and he decides to go home early, he picks up flowers. when he gets home, he sees cars parked in the street in front of his house but thinks nothing of it. He steps through the front door and hears noises coming from the bedroom. He starts to feel sick but goes anyway. There she is getting spit roasted by 2 bad boys covered in tatts, and reeking of booze. Disgusted he leaves the room and on his way out sees her unlocked phone, he picks it up and starts scrolling only to find out that she has been unfaithful the entire relationship. She has seen more penis than a urologist. More disgusted he drops the phone and leaves. When he finally comes home, the guys are gone, but the police are there. They grab him and haul him to the station, when he gets there he is grilled about what he’d done, and he tells them the story. According to the cop though, she says that he hit her, and abused her, and even showed them bruises (that look like maybe her party boys might have made). He is fortunate enough that there is not enough evidence and is released after several days. Just long enough for his employer to claim job abandonment and fire him. He returns home to find that the apartment he pays for has the locks changed, one of the bad boys moved in, and his stuff sitting out on the stoop getting rained on. He packs his things up and goes to find another place to live. He is smart enough to know that if he does anything at all, he will be crucified by a system that sees him as disposable, and her as a helpless victim. He calls her a couple days later for the last time for an explanation. She tells him that he is never around (working his ass off to fund their life) and that she is not happy. The other guys plowing her made her feel special, because he didn’t, couldn’t. How dare he be upset about how many had been with her before, and how dare he try and make this her fault when he should have been man enough to be around and entertain her.
He is beyond enraged about the situation, he wants to kill her, but he can’t do that, no matter how shitty a person she is, she is still a person. He then thinks “maybe it’s me who should die” (this is where the story ends for a lot of guys, check out the stats). He isn’t ready to throw in the towel yet. He starts his web search for a new job, and while searching goes off on a tangent looking up what he can do about an evil woman who destroyed him. He happens upon an obscure site called MGTOW. There are a bunch of guys there that have gotten some of the same treatment and they are talking about things he had learned himself the hard way. They tell him there is a better way. Just cut women out of his life and focus on his own happiness. But, isn’t giving up for losers, what will other guys think about him if he doesn’t have a girl, or is perceived to be unable to get one? They reassure him, that it doesn’t matter what others think, only that he does what he needs to, on his own terms to live the happiest life that he can. He finds a new job, puts in the time, finds a house this time an buys it free and clear. MGTOW introduce him to concepts that seem familiar from his own experience, tell their own stories and share concepts that he’d not learned or thought of. Over time his anger fades, he can barely remember the ex anymore. He has one hell of a nest egg stored up, 2 nice cars, the house, and takes trips to South East Asia twice a year (cause he likes the climate, not the brothels). For whatever reason, he kept on Facebook and posts all of his adventures and achievements. His ex, approaching her mid-30s and not doing well at all hits him up on Facebook, maybe they can give it just one more try. He politely declines and blocks her. He has no intention of being with her or any other woman. “The juice is not worth the squeeze.”
This is only one of the 1000s of possible stories. The underlying fact is that society and the law are stacked against men. If you associate with a woman you do it at your own peril. Dependent on level of association she can have you thrown in jail, prosecuted with no more evidence than her word, ruin your school career, ruin your work career, take your friends or alienate you from them, take your money, take your property, take your house, take your pet (or kill it), in some cases kill you and get away with it, manipulate you, abuse you and get away with it, rape you and get away with it, assault you and get away with it, have other men beat you, consign you to wage slavery, take your kids from you, and a host of other awful things.
For all of that risk, what can she give you? Faux/or real emotional support, semi-regular sex, children.
What do you stand to gain by removing women from your life? Less drama, less stress, less need for money, the greater hoard of money, more free time, more personal autonomy, no entanglements with the law, no tether
So, do the math here Reward – Cost = no relationship
no relationship * benefits of no relationship = happiness”