Clinton or Trump two different paths for the Manosphere and The New Activism

I have a love-hate relationship with politics. On the one hand, it fascinates me how and what people will do to do get and maintain power leaves me dizzy. On the other hand, people that cannot or will not stop talking about politics non-stop have easily got to be some of the most annoying people on the planet. Yes, everything has a political element to it, that being said though 12 step programs have a political element to them that didn’t stop me a Liberal choosing a guy that was about as Conservative as you could respectively get in Canada as a sponsor.

This man was the Ying to my Yang giving me a perspective on things that kept me in balance and centred. More importantly, he taught me without ever saying it that you don’t judge a person by their political affiliation, you judge them by what they do. This lesson has been crucial to me as I got involved with the MRM then MGTOW. There are still people that still cling to the dinosaur that’s the old liberal/conservative orbit on this issue. 

But that’s not the reason why I wanted to do this particular blog. I’ve been speculating on what’s happening in the 2016 presidential campaign and what it will mean for us in the Alternative media. Specifically what it’ll mean for us in the Greater Men’s Movement, Gamergate and the Red Pill.

I’ve already seen some very concerning trends develop in the last few months. For instance *1 There was an attempt early this year to platform the Gregory Alan Elliot verdict into an attempt to censor the internet and specifically Twitter. Which culminated in the one and only victory for feminism in the last few years when Roosh V had to pull back on his gathering. 

ANNOUNCEMENT: The Meetup On February 6 Is Cancelled

Not that I’m a big Roosh V fan or anything but what I concluded from what I saw here was a coordinated and organised attempt to keep someone from holding a meetup. 

There were also several MRA sites shut down because of mass complaints launched against them. In fact, I shared the blog by I-Hypocrite that documented what was happening

https://theredpillnation.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/rose-is-off-her-meds-ihypocrite/

What you saw here was the beginning of the actual kickback from Feminists as they desperately try to regain an initiative that they lost in 2013 and never got back. Personally, I think Feminists and SJW’s should be thankful that the election came along when it did. After all, they’ve done a great job of defeating themselves at every turn even losing any ground that they might’ve gained earlier in the year. This election serves as a healthy distraction for everyone allowing them to post up some real idiocy that would normally get crushed. 

*2 http://web.archive.org/web/20160824114011/https://www.buzzfeed.com/natalyalobanova/can-you-pick-the-right-man-to-ban?fb_comment_id=1038058736259462_1041653352566667&comment_id=1039244452807557&reply_comment_id=1041653352566667&utm_term=.jtXlRe26o#.ungLv95KP

But I’m 500 words into this, and I haven’t gotten to my actual point yet! Trump vs. Clinton what kind of effect will this have for us in the future. Whether you like it or not one of these two is going to be President. One sucks corporate dick, and the other one is a corporate dick. Glad I don’t have to pick one of them but then again I’d be voting Libertarian if I had the choice. 

So you have two options here Trump or Clinton? While I’m not psychic or any other kind of person who predicts the future I can make educated and informed guesses. I’ve been surprisingly good at doing this but they are just guesses, and I freely admit that I could be wrong. 

So two real options here Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump how will this play out? Please note here I’m stating what my personal preference is by the order or anything else.

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Hillary Clinton wins.

Currently, Hillary is in the lead but only by a thin margin, and this is one of those elections that may drag out weeks afterwards much like 2000. I’m not convinced that this is a shoo-in for her the Democrats are using the same failed tactics that the Republican opponents to Donald Trump used.

But this about who’s going to win more like what will happen if Hillary does win. That will depend on the margin of victory. If Hillary wins in a landslide, then the Feminist/SJW camp will probably view themselves as being more secure than the facts would indicate they are. They will take the time to gloat laugh and otherwise continue to be dismissive of us going into 2017 even to the point that the winter and spring may be relatively quiet. They’ll view this in much the same way the conservative pro-war crowd views the 2004 election and will eventually go on the attack. And not just the clumsy poorly thought out blunders you’ve seen this year, but full-scale media assaults. Blatant lying thinly veiled suggestions that someone should do harm to us etc. The thing is that they’ll feel secure in their position and will respond in due time. The only problem is that someone or group will take this seriously and act accordingly. This will trigger that now infamous stage 4 event

https://www.popularresistance.org/the-8-stages-of-successful-social-political-movements/

Then it’s game on

A narrow win by Clinton though will induce a kind of panic. Yeah, Hillary won but damn that was close! There will, of course, be celebrating and joy by the Regressives but this is short lived. A slight win will serve as a wake-up call and will induce as much anxiety as it does the celebration. The attacks will start shortly afterwards, possibly while Barrack Obama is still in office *3 The reason for this is simple, given what Hillary Clinton just spoke about the Alt Right tonight there is very little doubt in my mind that she will tacitly endorse this move. Much like there’s been a lot of speculation about Barrack Obama quietly endorsing what has been going on with Black Lives Matter *4 

Things will come to a head much sooner bolstered by probable silent approval from the top the attacks will come hard and fast. The fading social capital that the regressives have will get spent much faster than in the first scenario. Stage 4 trigger event could come in as little a 6 months to a year. There’s also the very real possibility given Hillary Clinton’s already bad record that we could see the first one and done President since 1992.

So no matter what the margin of victory here the culture war starts sooner rather than later

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Donald Trump wins

Let’s be honest here Donald Trump needs to be a little quieter! The culture war is still coming the only difference here is that unlike the margin of victory here. What happens with Donald Trump will depend on how competent he is. I’m going to give both options if you disagree with me, well for this story to work I have to do both. I’m not giving either of these two any endorsement. So we have a choice between a competent Donald Trump and an incompetent Donald Trump

Competent Donald Trump could be the answer to more than a few of the ills that are plaguing the United States right now. And he’ll need all his capability to deal with the constant attacks that he’ll be facing in his first year. Donald Trump is many things some of them good some of them bad. What he isn’t though is the choice of the establishment and I’ll even go far as to say that he may well be a victim of either an impeachment or assassination in his first 12-18 months. Especially if he turns out to be more competent than expected. 

What this means is that the regressives will likely be spending the first year or two going after Trump as opposed to engaging in an all out attack on the seven deadly anti-feminist groups *5. In fact what you’ll see is a kind of reset button hit the sniping will continue and much like how it’s been going for the last couple of years. The real difference is that the regressives will have more time and space to organize themselves. What you’re also going to see as Donald’s term in office continues we’ll start running into larger and more blatant attempts to censor the fight as we go along. You’ll see more of those Trust and Safety Councils spring up as the fight slowly and inexorably starts to heat up again.

https://blog.twitter.com/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-safety-council

With some luck, Donald and the people in the Oval Office might be able to keep a lid on things possibly even as long as 2018 or 2019

An incompetent Donald Trump is another story. The establishment will quickly realize that Donald Trump isn’t all he’s cut out to be. That still doesn’t rule out things like either an assassination or impeachment it just makes it less likely and much less urgent. What this will mean for us though is that the regressives will cease their attacks on Donald and swing around and come at us. So in this scenario I see things going critical later than it would with a competent Donald Trump but still later than it would with Hillary Clinton. 

But before we all celebrate the fact that Donald Trump’s election delays these events. For all intents and purposes when it does go off the explosion will be much larger because there will be more energy behind it when it goes, simply because there was more time before the critical point was reached.

Either way, it’s going to blow, at this point, I seriously doubt that regressives have the necessary foresight to realize how self-defeating they’ve been. Much like how certain people have chosen to bury their heads in the sand of global warming. Regressives will keep their heads buried in the sand until it’s too late. But for those people in the Manosphere who believe that going Conservative or Liberal, Republican or Democrat is going to solve this? It won’t this election is about moving the seating arrangements on the Titanic at this point. Saving this society will mean that you as a person will have to take individual action, not wait for big daddy government to come and save you.

Remember folks politics is a loaded issue and what I just wrote here is sheer speculation on my part, not a wish list. So let’s stay away from the dogma if we can.

*1 I have nary a shred of proof to back up the Twitter claim. There were an odd series of coincidences right around the time of the Gregory Alan Elliot verdict. 

*2 Not that the article in question didn’t get crushed in the comments anyway

*3 NO SOONER than today (August 25, 2016) Hillary Clinton herself took shots at the Alt Right movement. While I’m not Alt Right myself I found the timing of this very ominous indeed. Links provided below including a piece from Davis J Aurini

An Introduction to the Alt Right

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/25/politics/alt-right-explained-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/293359-full-speech-hillary-clinton-attacks-alt-right-and

*4 Again I have no facts to back up that point it’s pure speculation on my part and more than a few posts saying that’s what he did. Did he do it? I have no idea but given what I’ve seen from Barrack Obama it’s not out the question.

*5 I got this name from this bullshit article at Oxygen.com the Seven Deadly Anti-Feminist Groups are,  Gamergate, The Alt-Right, New Atheists, Men’s Right Activists, Red Pillers, MGTOW, Pick Up Artists

 

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