I’m sitting here tonight getting ready to share the next part of my series and I’m also wondering…what else?
Online activism has been my specialty for the last few months. I win upwards of 95 plus percent of my engagements. In fact in the last year I can count the number of times that I’ve lost on one hand. This has been all well and good but if you go back to some of the earlier blog posts, I made you’ll see that I made the prediction of the hardening position that the opposition to moving men’s issues forward would face as this went on.
If you go back through that blog, you’ll notice that I made a couple of predictions that have already happened. Namely the rise of the Anti-MRM feminist and the decrease of white knights but the escalation in tactics of the ones that remained behind.
Just two-plus years ago it wasn’t unusual at all for me to have to face down 5 or 6 people at the same time. This last year I’ve never had more than two. The thing is though is that that one person will post up more mindless babble and bullshit than those other six would together a few years ago. In that last couple of months, I’ve encountered more of this new white knight than I did in the previous few years before that.
What you have to understand about this type of person is that unlike someone who has just a passing interest in supporting these toxic feminists. This new type of White Knight is what are called fanatics! These men and women are not new, and they’ve existed throughout history in varies guises. Here’s what’s happening the main sources for producing the White Knights is slowly but surely starting to evaporate as the actions of Feminists start to become more public. These BOYS honestly believe that what they’re doing is for the greater good. Being a former White Knight myself, I saw myself a decent person doing something for a group of people that was being oppressed and abused. I knew they were because my mommy and sisters were telling me that this was going on; nobody told me any differently. What was different for me was that that in my family were such large hypocrites that I was able to figure it out. I was also given the time and space to figure it out on my own. What I saw once I had some uncomfortable facts pointed out to me. Loreena Bobbit was getting away with cutting her husband’s penis off and women openly celebrating this fact. Started a line of dominos that led me to where I am now.
Almost all of these white knights have men around them that have been screwed over by women. If they haven’t then, they’ve likely also seen at least once or twice that there are women that truly hate them just because they’re men. My take on this was that these women weren’t the majority and that they would never be driving the bus. The same guy who told me showed me the feminists celebrating what had happened with Loreena Bobbit told me this when I mentioned that same story that these women were not in the majority. Told me to look another time, and that this time, don’t look at the women that were openly misandric look at the ones that associated with them but stayed quiet. Once I expanded that group, I tested a few of these women. What I encountered was shocking! This group was as bad if not even worse than the open man haters. All of them also had reasons personal or professional for remaining quiet. Once I factored in this group, the percentage of man haters in Feminism went up a lot! I could venture a guess to say it’s somewhere between 30-40% of all feminists. Maybe even the majority in some places. The other part of it from what I saw also had issues with men above and beyond just women’s rights. Suffice to say I ended my association with Feminists at that point. It was also this along with reading ‘Manufacturing Consent’started a cascade that almost took me back to using
This process is likely very similar to what’s happening with White Knights everywhere. It’s hard to justify defending people that have no intention of respecting you for your efforts. Or worse would throw you under the bus the moment you make a mistake or no longer useful. Just ask Joss Whedon
Also, you have to keep in mind that these guys also get lives. They get jobs, get married or develop a career. They just don’t have time for activism like they used to. Or they just get wiser to what life is actually like, so they drop out. Seeing your best friend getting shafted in divorce or falsely accused will do that.
There is this other faction though the ones that are true believers. They are beyond reason, beyond logic or worse they know but are too proud or have invested too much emotionally into this to back out. And don’t laugh if you come from a family where the mother is narcissistic showing weakness could get you in big trouble. There’s also the whipped manginas doing this for some vague sexual payoff. These are guys that are being willfully ignorant. You’ve encountered some of these before. They’re the ones still supporting the KKK or Neo-Nazis or take the masterminds behind the Paris shootings.
So what you’re seeing here is a slowly shrinking pool of men advocating like White Knights. The ones that remain behind are fanatics.
Along with this you’re starting to see more women coming on to men’s rights sites with the sole intention of trolling. The best example of this type of troll is Big Red
Now this event happened in 2012 and up until about six weeks ago. You rarely saw a White Knight go onto an MRA/MGTOW or Red Pill on Facebook (Don’t know about Tumblr though) and start trolling. In the past month though I’ve encountered more trolls at these sites than I did in the two years before that.
So what’s going on here is this. Feminists and White Knights KNOW that they’re losing. They can’t stay in their echo chambers because those places are no longer getting bigger. They HAVE TO leave the chambers to win and when they do they get creamed because their narrative simply doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.
You’re going to see a lot more of this happen in the next few months. You’re also going to see more organized efforts like attempting to create a page around an issue and then attempt to play it off as an MRA site. Like what happened with No Hymen Diamond on Facebook
A page they decided to play off to Huffington Post as an MRA page. Almost all the other places you couldn’t comment on the article
Just giving to all a heads up expect more articles like this in the future.
What to do about this?
So far all of the feminists that have shown up at MRA sites have been trolls. This doesn’t mean that they all fall into that category. First make an attempt to determine if they’re actually a troll. Usually they will be but ask do try avoiding shooting first. I’ve been in the habit of shooting first so far and I realize that staying on a permanent combat footing isn’t always helpful. Ask a couple of questions before you decide to treat her/him like a troll. Once determined you can do one of two things. You can then either have a dialogue (Rarely) or you can go into Warrior mode. The dialogue needs to emphasize the misandry and harassment that Feminists have done in regards to men. Avoid lecturing and pointing fingers at the same time though s/he has by their inactivity in regards to the other feminists in her ranks is partially her fault. Her unwillingness to deal with that faction within feminism is at least partially her problem.
Now for the other idiots NO MERCY
They were stupid enough to go on to a Men’s site. they’ll get treated the same way Men’s Activists get treated on Feminist sites.
There will come a day when we can start hitting Feminist websites. That time isn’t now.